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Re: Pentcho Valev and the constancy of the speed of light in special relativity

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From: Androcles
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:36
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"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1185866336.586723.74690@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
: On 30 July, 19:41, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
: > Pentcho Valev wrote:
: > >>> Now Wormley Wormley you and Master Tom Roberts should answer the
: > >>> following question:
: > >>> Is the frequency shift of gh/c^2 consistent with Einstein's 1911
: > >>> equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2) and, equivalently, in the absence of a
: > >>> gravitational field, consistent with the emission theory equation 
c'=c
: > >>> +v, where c is the initial speed of photons relative to the light
: > >>> source and v is the relative speed of the light source and the
: > >>> observer?
: > >>> Pentcho Valev
: > >>    You might want to correct your expression, Pentcho.... the 
frequency
: > >>    shift of gh/c^2 is just that, not a shift in the speed of light c,
: > >>    therefore,
: >
: > >>         delta f / f = gh/c^2 , or
: >
: > >>         f_new = f_orig (1+gh/c^2)
: >
: > > Bravo Wormley!
: >
: > > Pentcho Valev
: >
: >  Now I don't want you to get this wrong again! OK?
:
: Wormley Wormley that is not the end of the story. Now you should
: combine your equation
:
: f_new = f_orig (1+gh/c^2)
:
: and the textbook equation
:
: frequency = (speed of light)/(wavelength)
:
: Master Tom Roberts often does so and obtains....yes he obtains
: Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2). Then Master Tom Roberts
: sticks his head in the sand, exposes other parts of his body and
: starts shouting, mouth full of sand:
:
: Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Einstein's 1911 equation is wrong! Wrong! Wrong!
: Wrong! Einstein's 1911 equation is wrong! Wrong! Wrong!....etc.
:
: Of course, Master Tom Roberts does not expect YOU to do the same. No
: zombie in Einstein criminal cult is allowed to say anything like
: "Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Einstein's 1911 equation is wrong!". Zombies are
: only allowed to destroy heretics, sing "Divine Einstein" and go into
: convulsions while singing.
:
: Pentcho Valev
: 
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