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On Jul 31, 3:18 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 30 July, 19:41, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > >>> Now Wormley Wormley you and Master Tom Roberts should answer the
> > >>> following question:
> > >>> Is the frequency shift of gh/c^2 consistent with Einstein's 1911
> > >>> equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2) and, equivalently, in the absence of a
> > >>> gravitational field, consistent with the emission theory equation c'=c
> > >>> +v, where c is the initial speed of photons relative to the light
> > >>> source and v is the relative speed of the light source and the
> > >>> observer?
> > >>> Pentcho Valev
> > >>    You might want to correct your expression, Pentcho.... the frequency
> > >>    shift of gh/c^2 is just that, not a shift in the speed of light c,
> > >>    therefore,
>
> > >>         delta f / f = gh/c^2 , or
>
> > >>         f_new = f_orig (1+gh/c^2)
>
> > > Bravo Wormley!
>
> > > Pentcho Valev
>
> >  Now I don't want you to get this wrong again! OK?
>
> Wormley Wormley that is not the end of the story. Now you should
> combine your equation
>
> f_new = f_orig (1+gh/c^2)
>
> and the textbook equation
>
> frequency = (speed of light)/(wavelength)
>
> Master Tom Roberts often does so and obtains....yes he obtains
> Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2). Then Master Tom Roberts
> sticks his head in the sand, exposes other parts of his body and
> starts shouting, mouth full of sand:
>
> Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Einstein's 1911 equation is wrong! Wrong! Wrong!
> Wrong! Einstein's 1911 equation is wrong! Wrong! Wrong!....etc.

What's wrong with that? GR is not the 1911 theory,
it was introduced in 1915.

Unlike you, we don't think Einstein is some sort of
divine figure. He was a working physicist. That means
that unlike you, in 4 years he could make progress,
and hypotheses could change.

Einstein died in 1955. That's 40 years after the GR
paper, and 50 after the SR paper. Unlike you, a working
physicist could make even more progress in 40 or 50
years than in 4. So there have been other modifications
and refinements to SR, GR, their derivations and their
interpretations.

Actual scientists can make mistakes and realize they've
made mistakes. That's how science works. So sorry it
goes against your world view.

            - Randy