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Re: Pentcho Valev and the constancy of the speed of light in special relativity

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From: Androcles
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:32
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"Randy Poe" <poespam-trap@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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: On Jul 31, 3:18 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: > On 30 July, 19:41, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
: >
: >
: >
: > > Pentcho Valev wrote:
: > > >>> Now Wormley Wormley you and Master Tom Roberts should answer the
: > > >>> following question:
: > > >>> Is the frequency shift of gh/c^2 consistent with Einstein's 1911
: > > >>> equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2) and, equivalently, in the absence of a
: > > >>> gravitational field, consistent with the emission theory equation 
c'=c
: > > >>> +v, where c is the initial speed of photons relative to the light
: > > >>> source and v is the relative speed of the light source and the
: > > >>> observer?
: > > >>> Pentcho Valev
: > > >>    You might want to correct your expression, Pentcho.... the 
frequency
: > > >>    shift of gh/c^2 is just that, not a shift in the speed of light 
c,
: > > >>    therefore,
: >
: > > >>         delta f / f = gh/c^2 , or
: >
: > > >>         f_new = f_orig (1+gh/c^2)
: >
: > > > Bravo Wormley!
: >
: > > > Pentcho Valev
: >
: > >  Now I don't want you to get this wrong again! OK?
: >
: > Wormley Wormley that is not the end of the story. Now you should
: > combine your equation
: >
: > f_new = f_orig (1+gh/c^2)
: >
: > and the textbook equation
: >
: > frequency = (speed of light)/(wavelength)
: >
: > Master Tom Roberts often does so and obtains....yes he obtains
: > Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2). Then Master Tom Roberts
: > sticks his head in the sand, exposes other parts of his body and
: > starts shouting, mouth full of sand:
: >
: > Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Einstein's 1911 equation is wrong! Wrong! Wrong!
: > Wrong! Einstein's 1911 equation is wrong! Wrong! Wrong!....etc.
:
: What's wrong with that? GR is not the 1911 theory,
: it was introduced in 1915.
:
: Unlike you, we don't think Einstein is some sort of
: divine figure. He was a working physicist.

Liar. He was never a physicist and didn't work.

That means
: that unlike you, in 4 years he could make progress,
: and hypotheses could change.
:
: Einstein died in 1955. That's 40 years after the GR
: paper, and 50 after the SR paper. Unlike you, a working
: physicist could make even more progress in 40 or 50
: years than in 4. So there have been other modifications
: and refinements to SR, GR, their derivations and their
: interpretations.
:
: Actual scientists can make mistakes and realize they've
: made mistakes.


Actual fuckheads make mistakes and never realize they've
made mistakes.
 http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/Smart.htm


: That's how science works. So sorry it
: goes against your world view.

You lying hypocritical sarcastic shit, you are not sorry at all.
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