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Article #15982Re: Pentcho Valev and the constancy of the speed of light in special relativity
From: Androcles
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:32
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:32
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"Randy Poe" <poespam-trap@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1185900147.117270.88260@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com... : On Jul 31, 3:18 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: : > On 30 July, 19:41, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote: : > : > : > : > > Pentcho Valev wrote: : > > >>> Now Wormley Wormley you and Master Tom Roberts should answer the : > > >>> following question: : > > >>> Is the frequency shift of gh/c^2 consistent with Einstein's 1911 : > > >>> equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2) and, equivalently, in the absence of a : > > >>> gravitational field, consistent with the emission theory equation c'=c : > > >>> +v, where c is the initial speed of photons relative to the light : > > >>> source and v is the relative speed of the light source and the : > > >>> observer? : > > >>> Pentcho Valev : > > >> You might want to correct your expression, Pentcho.... the frequency : > > >> shift of gh/c^2 is just that, not a shift in the speed of light c, : > > >> therefore, : > : > > >> delta f / f = gh/c^2 , or : > : > > >> f_new = f_orig (1+gh/c^2) : > : > > > Bravo Wormley! : > : > > > Pentcho Valev : > : > > Now I don't want you to get this wrong again! OK? : > : > Wormley Wormley that is not the end of the story. Now you should : > combine your equation : > : > f_new = f_orig (1+gh/c^2) : > : > and the textbook equation : > : > frequency = (speed of light)/(wavelength) : > : > Master Tom Roberts often does so and obtains....yes he obtains : > Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2). Then Master Tom Roberts : > sticks his head in the sand, exposes other parts of his body and : > starts shouting, mouth full of sand: : > : > Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Einstein's 1911 equation is wrong! Wrong! Wrong! : > Wrong! Einstein's 1911 equation is wrong! Wrong! Wrong!....etc. : : What's wrong with that? GR is not the 1911 theory, : it was introduced in 1915. : : Unlike you, we don't think Einstein is some sort of : divine figure. He was a working physicist. Liar. He was never a physicist and didn't work. That means : that unlike you, in 4 years he could make progress, : and hypotheses could change. : : Einstein died in 1955. That's 40 years after the GR : paper, and 50 after the SR paper. Unlike you, a working : physicist could make even more progress in 40 or 50 : years than in 4. So there have been other modifications : and refinements to SR, GR, their derivations and their : interpretations. : : Actual scientists can make mistakes and realize they've : made mistakes. Actual fuckheads make mistakes and never realize they've made mistakes. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/Smart.htm : That's how science works. So sorry it : goes against your world view. You lying hypocritical sarcastic shit, you are not sorry at all.
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