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Article #15992Re: Pentcho Valev and the constancy of the speed of light in special relativity
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:54
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:54
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On 29 July, 18:29, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote: > Pentcho Valev wrote stuff: > > [snipped] > > Are you dense, Pentcho? See Shapiro Effect > Consider the time delay of signal passing between the earth and Mars > due to the curvature of space time by the Sun. Then > > delta T_max = (4G M/c^3)*[ln(4 r_mars r_earth/r_sun^2) +1 ] > > http://www.geocities.com/newastronomy/animate.htm > > BTW, Pentcho -- Gravitational Redshift > http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/GravitationalRedshift.html Wormley Wormley why should we consider all the definitions that zombies in Einstein criminal cult have found it suitable to give? It would be much better for us to deal with the interpretation of gravitational redshift given in perhaps the best relativity textbook: http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch13.pdf pp.2-4 "This GR time-dilation effect was first measured at Harvard by Pound and Rebka in 1960. They sent gamma rays up a 20m tower and measured the redshift (that is, the decrease in frequency) at the top. This was a notable feat indeed, considering that they were able to measure a frequency shift of gh/c^2 (which is only a few parts in 10^15) to within 1% accuracy." Now Wormley Wormley you and Master Tom Roberts should answer the following question: Is the frequency shift of gh/c^2 consistent with Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2) and, equivalently, in the absence of a gravitational field, consistent with the emission theory equation c'=c +v, where c is the initial speed of photons relative to the light source and v is the relative speed of the light source and the observer? Pentcho Valev
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