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"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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: On 29 July, 18:29, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
: > Pentcho Valev wrote stuff:
: >
: >     [snipped]
: >
: >     Are you dense, Pentcho?  See Shapiro Effect
: >     Consider the time delay of signal passing between the earth and Mars
: >     due to the curvature of space time by the Sun. Then
: >
: >         delta T_max = (4G M/c^3)*[ln(4 r_mars r_earth/r_sun^2) +1 ]
: >
: >    http://www.geocities.com/newastronomy/animate.htm
: >
: >     BTW, Pentcho -- Gravitational Redshift
: > http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/GravitationalRedshift.html
:
: Wormley Wormley why should we consider all the definitions that
: zombies in Einstein criminal cult have found it suitable to give? It
: would be much better for us to deal with the interpretation of
: gravitational redshift given in perhaps the best relativity textbook:
:
: http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch13.pdf pp.2-4
: "This GR time-dilation effect was first measured at Harvard by Pound
: and Rebka in 1960. They sent gamma rays up a 20m tower and measured
: the redshift (that is, the decrease in frequency) at the top. This was
: a notable feat indeed, considering that they were able to measure a
: frequency shift of gh/c^2 (which is only a few parts in 10^15) to
: within 1% accuracy."
:
: Now Wormley Wormley you and Master Tom Roberts should answer the
: following question:
:
: Is the frequency shift of gh/c^2 consistent with Einstein's 1911
: equation c'=c(1+gh/c^2) and, equivalently, in the absence of a
: gravitational field, consistent with the emission theory equation c'=c
: +v, where c is the initial speed of photons relative to the light
: source and v is the relative speed of the light source and the
: observer?
:
: Pentcho Valev

Cars come off an assembly line and are driven out of the factory
to a holding area, a large parking lot.

Inside the plant the cars are one car length apart, crawl along at 1 mph
and leave the car plant at a rate of 1 per minute. A quick inspection
is then carried out, turning on the lights etc., adding fuel and starting 
the
engine. They are then driven at 20 mph to the holding area.

Because speed = car length * frequency and the speed of the
cars is 1 mph, 60 cars an hour are produced inside the plant and
1200 cars an hour arrive at the holding area because they are driven
20 times faster outside than they move inside the plant.

This is a notable feat indeed, considering that Ford engineer Joe
Shapiro was able to measure the distance between cars (that is, the
increase in frequency) to within 10% accuracy.

Are you dense, Pentcho? See Joe Shapiro effect.
Consider the time delay of cars passing between the plant and
the holding area due to the curvature of roads along the way.
Then 20 mph = car length * frequency.