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Article #16026Re: A second "big bang"
From: Joseph Lazio
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 16:12
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 16:12
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>>>>> "ITH" == Indestructible Truth Holder <nospam@mindspring.com> writes: ITH> "Mark Folsom" <folsomman@prodigy.com> wrote in message ITH> news:v47nmfjb1fhke9@corp.supernews.com... >> "Thanatos" <dgahan@europe.com> wrote in message >> news:JJQ0a.42784$jM5.108252@newsfeeds.bigpond.com... >> >>> I do have a problem with the way it is tought in schools as >>> "factual", >> >> Other well supported theories are taught in much the same way. Do >> you have similar problems with gravity and the periodic table? ITH> The problem is all of the assumptions which for some reason or ITH> another aren't presented as assumptions but taken for granted. ITH> For one thing, BB theory completely ignores that time is not ITH> independent of the motion of matter and energy, which makes the ITH> notion of the "age" of the universe a ridiculous one.. The BB model rests upon general relativity. GR certainly predicts that different observers, with different velocities, may measure different rates of time. >>> and the way scientists insist on "cooking the books" to prop it >>> up if observations don't quite fit... >> >> Maybe you can offer some specific examples instead of just >> bullshit...? ITH> The fudge factors. That's not very specific. The fudge factors appearing where? >>> BBT is at best a "best-fit" theory to some early observations, >>> but the way >>> it has influenced interpretations of subsequent observations has >>> reduced current theory to a tenuous "stack of cards" where the >>> destruction of a fundamental idea will bring the whole lot >>> crashing down. >> >> The basic idea of the big bang seems entirely bullet-proof--a hot, >> high-density beginning with subsequent expansion is in perfect >> accord with a >> large number of very careful observations. It's very unlikely to >> be overthrown completely, and with good reason. ITH> Why does BBT assume the speed of light is and always was constant ITH> and independent of gravity? Because observations, particularly many in the solar system, indicate that the speed of light is independent of the depth of the gravitational potential. Can you cite any observations that suggest otherwise? -- Lt. Lazio, HTML police | e-mail: jlazio@patriot.net No means no, stop rape. | http://patriot.net/%7Ejlazio/ sci.astro FAQ at http://sciastro.astronomy.net/sci.astro.html
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f74ae,3df8337c8f392688 X-Google-Attributes: gidf74ae,public X-Google-Thread: 111645,3df8337c8f392688 X-Google-Attributes: gid111645,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,3df8337c8f392688 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: 10f545,3df8337c8f392688 X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-02-08 08:12:44 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Joseph Lazio <jlazio@adams.patriot.net> Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,fr.sci.astrophysique Subject: Re: A second "big bang" Date: 08 Feb 2003 11:12:41 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <llbs1m21l2.fsf@adams.patriot.net> References: <b1njmo$bsd$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net> <3E3F6FB9.6020303@hotmail.NOSPAM.com> <xaK%9.26458$ZE1.557225@news1.nokia.com> <3E3F79EB.8F5B1796@nic.or.kr> <JJQ0a.42784$jM5.108252@newsfeeds.bigpond.com> <v47nmfjb1fhke9@corp.supernews.com> <b20u0b$pe8$1@slb9.atl.mindspring.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 58