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Re: A second "big bang"

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From: Indestructible Truth Holder
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 19:40
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"Mark Folsom" <folsomman@prodigy.com> wrote in message
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> "Spaceman" <agentspaceman@aol.combination> wrote in message
> news:NjY0a.22719$SD6.1159@sccrnsc03...
> > <LOL>
> > I Got you!
> > You Lose!
> > HA HA!.
>
> Wow, what a childish idiot!

I agree with you about his behavior, which is unfortunate because he raises
valid questions.  Your behavior has left a little to be desired too, with
your rash assumptions than anybody criticizing the current theories is a
Creationist.

> > > Please cite your evidence that the speed of light in water changes
with
> > > time, all else remaining equal.
> >
> > changes with time?
> > I never said such.
>
> Then why did you inject your bullshit into this exchange, which was about
> the change of the speed of light over time.

Actually, I challenged the assumption the speed of light "is and always has
been" constant, which includes time but could also include other factors.

> > I said the speed of light is less in water than in air.
>
> Actually, I don't think you did in that last post.

He did say the speed of light changes in water, and I doubt he was implying
it's faster than in air.

> > and that the relative speeds create differences in wavelengths.
> > HENCE
> > no "constant" c to all.
>
> In a vacuum, it is.

This is one of the fudge factors I was talking about.  Space isn't a uniform
vacuum, there are clouds of primitive gases, subatomic particles, even dust
and matter floating around between stars and planets.

> > > You can measure the speed of light by watching the orbits of the moons
> > > of Jupiter.  Is that far enough out there?
> >
> > No,
> > that is not "measuring light's speed"
> > that is "guessing" using c as lightspeed and using
> > distances that were measured by using c.
>
> Tell me, please, how c was used in measuring distances to the moons of
> Jupiter.

Isn't c used to calculate the astrononical unit?
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From: "Indestructible Truth Holder" <nospam@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,fr.sci.astrophysique,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: A second "big bang"
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 13:40:42 -0600
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