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Article #16110LENGTH CONTRACTION IN PARIS AND OXFORD
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:05
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:05
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In Paris length contraction is NOT REAL; rather, "il s'agit d'un effet de perspective spatio-temporelle": http://www-drfmc.cea.fr/Phocea/file.php?class=std&file=Seminaires/342/t342_1.pdf Gilles Cohen-Tannoudji: "Chez Poincare, la contraction des longueurs et la dilatation des durees sont reelles.....Chez Einstein, la contraction des longueurs et la dilatation des durees ne sont pas reelles: elles sont le resultat d'un effet de perspective." http://www.academie-sciences.fr/membres/in_memoriam/Einstein/Einstein_pdf/Einstein_Damour.pdf Thibault Damour: "La <<contraction des longueurs>> avait, avant Einstein, ete consideree par George Fitzgerald et Hendrik Lorentz. Cependant, ils la consideraient comme un effet <<reel>> de contraction dans l'<<espace absolu>>, alors que pour Einstein il s'agit d'un effet de perspective spatio-temporelle." In Oxford length contraction is REAL, particles REALLY "get closer together", that is, il ne s'agit pas d'un effet de perspective spatio- temporelle: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/0601/0601182v1.pdf http://ndpr.nd.edu/review.cfm?id=6603 "There are many things I might be asking when I ask someone to explain length contraction. I might be asking, "Why do different inertial observers (who are not at relative rest) disagree about the length of a given (inertially moving) rod?" Or I might be asking, "Why is a moving rod shorter than its stationary counterpart (of the same proper length)?" Or I might be asking, "If you take a rod that is initially at rest (in your frame of reference), and accelerate it, why is it shorter after you accelerate it than it was before you accelerated it?"......I'm not sure what Brown thinks about geometrical answers to the first why-question, but he certainly thinks that GEOMETRICAL ANSWERS TO THE SECOND TWO WHY-QUESTIONS ARE BAD EXPLANATIONS. He thinks that good answers to these questions say something about the way in which the forces holding the parts of the rod together depend on velocity of the rod. Only that is a story of what causes the particles to get closer together, and so what causes the rod to shrink." At first sight, length contraction in Paris is different from length contraction in Oxford but that is not the case. Il s'agit de DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS of length contraction within the Anglo-French Silly Walk called "La Marche Futile": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w Einstein hypnotist: Now Zombie. I'm not going to mince words with you. I'm going to offer you a Research Fellowship on the Anglo-French Silly Walk. Einstein zombie: La Marche Futile? Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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