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Re: How to explain the Michelson-Morley experiment without SR?

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From: Uncle Ben
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:56
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On Jul 13, 8:09 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
> "Uncle Ben" <b...@greenba.com> wrote in message
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> news:aa846cd5-943f-48f6-bfbc-258093345141@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 12, 4:20 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 10, 6:40 pm, Uncle Ben <b...@greenba.com> wrote in sci.physics:
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> > > How does the anti-Einstein crowd explain the famous Michelson-Morley
> > > experiment?
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> > > Just to refresh memories, they looked for the ether, trying to measure
> > > the velocity of the earth through it. Their interferometer floated on
> > > the suface of a tank to eliminate vibrations. They tried during
> > > different times of the year, when the motion of the earth around the
> > > sun was going in opposite directions relative to the stars. And they
> > > tried just rotating the interferometer. The sensitivity of the
> > > interferometer was such that they should have been able to detect
> > > motion at a small fraction of the speed of light.
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> > > They never did find any evidence of motion through the ether.
> > > Conclusion: Either a) the luminiferous ether that fills all space and
> > > transmits light to us from the stars is fixed to a floating
> > > interferometer in a tank in the basement of Adelbert Hall at Western
> > > Reserve University, or b) there is no ether, or c) galillean
> > > relativity is wrong, or some combination of these ideas.
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> > > Einstein proposed (independently of this experiment,which he learned
> > > about later) answer c), and that if there is an ether, it is so clever
> > > at hiding from us that we can never detect it.
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> > > What do the anti-relativity folk have to say about this experiment? I
> > > predict that Spaceman will say their interferometer malfunctioned.
> > > Some will say that Michelson and Morley must have been Jewish. Other
> > > than that, I am curious.
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> > > Uncle Ben
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> > If you were somewhat cleverer you question would have been:
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> > "Why on earth didn't they explain the Michelson-Morley experiment in
> > terms of Newton's emission theory of light?"
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> >(snip)
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> You are right, except that in fact they DID -- or at least Spaceman
> and Androcles did.  Apparently other people have taken the emission
> theory seriously in recent years, enough to have inspired a search for
> evidence from the spectra of rotating twin stars.  They didn't find
> any support for the emission theory. (See Wikipedia on "Emission
> theory of light.)
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> Even way back, Newton dismissed it after a while, saying that it would
> cause astral light spectra to be all jumbled up.
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> Ben
> ============================================
> What "rotating twin stars"?
>    http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Algol/Algol.htm
>    http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Orbit/Orbit.htm
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> Newton was right, it does "jumble up". It takes a computer to unravel it.
>  http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Copernicus/LCV.htm- Hide quoted text -
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I admire your elegant animations. As for your physics, as we say in
german, "Die gedanken sind frei."

Ben
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From: Uncle Ben <ben@greenba.com>
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Subject: Re: How to explain the Michelson-Morley experiment without SR?
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