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Re: Pound Rebka

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From: Tom Roberts
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:03
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Max Keon wrote:
> You clearly stated that the em-radiation going up is shifted to
> lower frequency. But it's only the clock rate stationed with the
> observer at the top that is blueshifted. There is no "photon
> frequency" change at all.

Quantities like frequency, clock rate, and energy are all COORDINATE 
DEPENDENT. Whether or not they change in the Pound-Rebka experiment 
depends on which coordinates you choose to use. The spatial coordinates 
don't matter, here. If you choose a time coordinate determined by 
standard clocks at every location of interest, you will observe that the 
frequency and energy of the radiation changes; if you use a single 
master clock with slave clocks at each location that are slaved to the 
master via EM pulses (as in Schwarzschild coordinates), then you will 
observe that the clock rates change but the radiation frequency does 
not. The former is what Pound and Rebka implicitly used, as their 
Moessbauer resonators are standard clocks.

You attempt to make a distinction without a difference: both 
descriptions are valid. One must of course be careful to select one and 
stick with it throughout.


Tom Roberts
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