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Re: Pound Rebka

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From: HW Henri Wilson
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:22
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:05:29 +0100, "Paul B. Andersen"
<paul.b.andersen@guesswhatuia.no> wrote:

>Dr. Henri Wilson skrev:
>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:38:22 +0100, "Paul B. Andersen"
>> <paul.b.andersen@guesswhatuia.no> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dr. Henri Wilson skrev:
>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:58:42 +0100, "Paul B. Andersen"
>>>> <paul.b.andersen@guesswhatuia.no> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Henri Wilson skrev:
>>>>>> There is a simple reason why the GR redshift is the same as the BaTh one.
>>>>>> Along with the rest of its insanity, GR distorts space so that falling light
>>>>>> retains a constant light speed whilst BaTh does not promote such a delusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The end result is naturally the same....so are the equations.
>>>>> PBA:
>>>>> | You can't make a continuous wave increase its frequency
>>>>> | by speeding it up. It is the wavelength that will change.
>>>>>
>>>>> HW:
>>>>> | Correct, I demonstrated that with my animation
>>>>> | http://www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/fallingwave.exe
>>>>>
>>>>> PBA:
>>>>> | So you agree that "falling light" and the BaTh can't explain
>>>>> | the gravitational frequency shift.
>>>>>
>>>>> HW:
>>>>> | Yes...for individual photons but not radio signals.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's why it is _blatantly_ obvious to anyone with some measure
>>>>> of intelligence that since frequencies and wavelengths factually
>>>>> are gravitationally shifted, Galilean relativity is falsified.
>>>>
>>>> Where is the believable evidence that radio signals are doppler shifted due to
>>>> 'falling'? You have none.
>>> And the reason why the observed gravitational frequency shift
>>> of the radio signals from gravity probe A isn't 'believable' is:
>>>
>>>> How many band pass filters are accurate to 10^-11.
>>> .. the bandpass filters in the gravity probe A experiment
>>> changed the frequency of the received signal.
>>> Wonderland fairies in the filters inserted extra cycles.
>>> Right? :-)
>>>
>>> Keep it up, Henri.
>>> I am sure you can do even better.
>>> The sky is the limit! :-)
>> 
>> How much does the 'finely tuned cavity' change in free fall? 
>> 
>> Certainly more than 1 in 10^10 
>
>
>The 'bandpass filter changing the frequency' didn't work.

Are you deliberately trying to act like a moron, out of sheer desperation?

>So what else can we blame it on?

How would you know if a 1000mhz radio signal from a space capsule was blue
shifted by 4 parts in 10^11 or not?

>Ah.
>'The finely tuned cavity' which determine the frequency
>of the hyperfine transition in the hydrogen maser of course!

Any oscillator can be run off resonance.

>Well done, Henri.
>This was indeed even better.
>
>But keep keeping it up, Henri.
>I am sure you can do even better.
>You have reached the Moon, but the sky is the limit!

You obviously have no sensible answer.
The cavity becomes detuned in free fall.

So?




Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

Einstein's  Relativity is easy to understand if one has the IQ of a parrot and a gullibility index >0.95.
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