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Article #16285Re: Pound Rebka
From: Max Keon
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:16
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:16
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"Jeckyl" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:13ptdo21cbn3ra3@corp.supernews.com... > Jeckyl wrote: >> Max Keon wrote: >>> Clock oscillators and the natural oscillators that generate >>> characteristic spectral lines have been proven to become >>> redshifted in a gravity well. Trying to explain the redshift as >>> lost energy due to a "photon's" climb from the well is absolutely >>> ridiculous. >>> >>> The clocks of the GPS prove beyond doubt that they _physically_ >>> run slower on the Earth's surface, >> >> What do you mean by '_physically_' ? And what do you mean slower .. GPS >> clocks run quicker in orbit then when on the earth (as observed from >> earth) >> Sounds like you've gotten something wrong there. > Sorry .. I misread your post (so it was me that got something wrong :)) > > Yes .. the clock on the satellite is slower when on the earth than when in > orbit (as observed from earth). Of course, within the satellite itself, > there is no change in the clock .. it continues to tick at the same rate. > > So .. the question still remains: what do you mean by _physically_? Do you > mean it is not some optical illusion (eg due to transit time of light > signals etc)? Do you mean it is what we measure .. in which case what is > 'physical' depends on your frame of reference? Or is there some deeper > meaning to '_phsycally_'? _Every_ electronic interaction in the universe outside a proton-neutron physically runs slower in a gravity well, and that includes every electronic interaction that controls a life cycle rate. So nothing locally will appear to have changed. But the rest of the universe is now _physically_ running faster according to life in the gravity well. In a 300000 year old universe, how slow do you think everything would be _physically_ running compared to now? ----- Max Keon
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