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Re: Pound Rebka

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From: Max Keon
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:16
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"Jeckyl" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Jeckyl wrote:
>> Max Keon wrote:
>>> Clock oscillators and the natural oscillators that generate
>>> characteristic spectral lines have been proven to become
>>> redshifted in a gravity well. Trying to explain the redshift as
>>> lost energy due to a "photon's" climb from the well is absolutely
>>> ridiculous.
>>>
>>> The clocks of the GPS prove beyond doubt that they _physically_
>>> run slower on the Earth's surface,
>>
>> What do you mean by '_physically_' ?  And what do you mean slower .. GPS
>> clocks run quicker in orbit then when on the earth (as observed from
>> earth)
>> Sounds like you've gotten something wrong there.

> Sorry .. I misread your post (so it was me that got something wrong :))
>
> Yes .. the clock on the satellite is slower when on the earth than when in
> orbit (as observed from earth).  Of course, within the satellite itself,
> there is no change in the clock .. it continues to tick at the same rate.
>
> So .. the question still remains: what do you mean by _physically_?  Do
you
> mean it is not some optical illusion (eg due to transit time of light
> signals etc)?  Do you mean it is what we measure .. in which case what is
> 'physical' depends on your frame of reference?  Or is there some deeper
> meaning to '_phsycally_'?

_Every_ electronic interaction in the universe outside a
proton-neutron physically runs slower in a gravity well, and that
includes every electronic interaction that controls a life cycle
rate. So nothing locally will appear to have changed. But the
rest of the universe is now _physically_ running faster according
to life in the gravity well.

In a 300000 year old universe, how slow do you think everything
would be _physically_ running compared to now?

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Max Keon
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