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"Max Keon" <maxkeon@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message 
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> "Jeckyl" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> Jeckyl wrote:
>>> Max Keon wrote:
>>>> Clock oscillators and the natural oscillators that generate
>>>> characteristic spectral lines have been proven to become
>>>> redshifted in a gravity well. Trying to explain the redshift as
>>>> lost energy due to a "photon's" climb from the well is absolutely
>>>> ridiculous.
>>>>
>>>> The clocks of the GPS prove beyond doubt that they _physically_
>>>> run slower on the Earth's surface,
>>>
>>> What do you mean by '_physically_' ?  And what do you mean slower .. GPS
>>> clocks run quicker in orbit then when on the earth (as observed from
>>> earth)
>>> Sounds like you've gotten something wrong there.
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>> Sorry .. I misread your post (so it was me that got something wrong :))
>>
>> Yes .. the clock on the satellite is slower when on the earth than when 
>> in
>> orbit (as observed from earth).  Of course, within the satellite itself,
>> there is no change in the clock .. it continues to tick at the same rate.
>>
>> So .. the question still remains: what do you mean by _physically_?  Do
> you
>> mean it is not some optical illusion (eg due to transit time of light
>> signals etc)?  Do you mean it is what we measure .. in which case what is
>> 'physical' depends on your frame of reference?  Or is there some deeper
>> meaning to '_phsycally_'?
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> _Every_ electronic interaction in the universe outside a
> proton-neutron physically runs slower in a gravity well, and that
> includes every electronic interaction that controls a life cycle
> rate.

Yes

> So nothing locally will appear to have changed.

Yes

> But the
> rest of the universe is now _physically_ running faster according
> to life in the gravity well.

Yes

> In a 300000 year old universe, how slow do you think everything
> would be _physically_ running compared to now?

Eh?