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Article #16294Re: Pound Rebka
From: Jeckyl
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 05:17
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 05:17
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"Jeckyl" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:13ptddbd5fmv604@corp.supernews.com... > "Max Keon" <maxkeon@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message > news:479e9523$0$18606$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... >> >> "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:a7476325-ebe0-458d-8e95-308d9602ce70@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >>> On Jan 25, 1:53 pm, "Max Keon" <maxk...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> >>> [snip junk] >> >> You have my sympathy, but physics is the medium of truth and >> truth will always prevail in the end. >> >>> There is no point in discussing equations that you have simply MADE >>> UP. So what if observation disagrees with your made up equations? It >>> wouldn't be the first time. >> >> Clock oscillators and the natural oscillators that generate >> characteristic spectral lines have been proven to become >> redshifted in a gravity well. Trying to explain the redshift as >> lost energy due to a "photon's" climb from the well is absolutely >> ridiculous. >> >> The clocks of the GPS prove beyond doubt that they _physically_ >> run slower on the Earth's surface, > > What do you mean by '_physically_' ? And what do you mean slower .. GPS > clocks run quicker in orbit then when on the earth (as observed from > earth) > Sounds like you've gotten something wrong there. Sorry .. I misread your post (so it was me that got something wrong :)) Yes .. the clock on the satellite is slower when on the earth than when in orbit (as observed from earth). Of course, within the satellite itself, there is no change in the clock .. it continues to tick at the same rate. So .. the question still remains: what do you mean by _physically_? Do you mean it is not some optical illusion (eg due to transit time of light signals etc)? Do you mean it is what we measure .. in which case what is 'physical' depends on your frame of reference? Or is there some deeper meaning to '_phsycally_'?
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