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Article #16299Re: Pound Rebka
From: Eric Gisse
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:42
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:42
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On Jan 23, 9:15 pm, "Max Keon" <maxk...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > "Eric Gisse" <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:84c8c8de-d68c-4319-998a-475f9783b160@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > Max Keon wrote: > >> Eric Gisse wrote: > >>> Max Keon wrote: > >>>> Eric Gisse wrote: > >>>>> The CMBR has been detected many times over the past 40 years. > > >>>> Yes, it has. But what is detected today requires that spectral > >>>> line frequencies generated when the CMBR was first transmitted > >>>> be exactly what they are when generated in today's environment. > >>>> That's hardly likely when the mass of the entire universe was > >>>> within, at most, 10000000 * 2 light years of everything. > > >>>> Can't you see that? > > >>> Your argument would be more meaningful if you had a calculation > >>> supporting it. Especially if the argument wasn't that we cannot > >>> possibly be observing what has been routinely observed. > > --- > > >> Every natural oscillator is affected by every bit of matter in > >> the universe. If the mass of the currently visible universe is > >> i.e. 5e+56 kilograms, and all of that mass resided in a thin > >> shell at the visible extremes, at a 13 billion light year radius, > >> or 1.23e+26 meters, clock running speed is t' = t/(G*M/(c^2*r)) > >> t' = 3.32e-4 of what it would be in a universe where only the > >> clock exists. > > When you learn to stop pulling equations out of your ass, let me > > know and this can continue. > > I chose to use the equation in the above format because > t' = t*(G*M/r)) generates numbers large enough to frighten you > away. We can do it your way if you like. t' is of course the > clock slowing rate per (whatever time unit you want). Stop pulling equations out of your ass if you want people to listen to you. [snip remaining, unread]
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