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"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Max Keon wrote:
>> So what would the CMBR look like now? It would be virtually
>> impossible to detect, wouldn't it!

> ...you have got to be shitting me.

Perhaps stepping through these excerpts from my previous post
may help you understand.

>> Spectral lines are generated on the same principle as the Caesium
>> driven atomic clock, displaying gravitational redshift,

Meaning that spectral lines generated from the natural harmonics
of the charge structure of any molecule, slows with increasing
depth into a gravity well, which is exactly how the Caesium atom
charge configuration that drives an atomic clock behaves.

>>      so the
>> early universe would be redshifted enormously. And that would not
>> be an illusion.

The matter housed in the early universe was much closer together
than it is today, wasn't it? So spectral lines would have been
redshifted enormously at the time, wouldn't they?

Even if our perception of time is directly linked to redshift so
that locally generated spectral lines and clock frequencies are
always of the same relative proportions, that wouldn't change
how we currently (today) perceive the universe 13 billion years
ago when the CMBR was first transmitted. Would it?

>> Now get this part clear in your head. When we look back 13
>> billion years in time we are looking at an expanded early
>> universe that was already enormously redshifted at the time.

Atomic clocks have proven beyond doubt that they run slower
in a gravity well, and the rate of change is equal to the
frequency change rate of atomic spectral lines. If there was no
expansion, spectral lines from the CMBR era could not possibly
start off as they appear today.

>> So what would the CMBR look like now? It would be virtually
>> impossible to detect, wouldn't it!

The CMBR began its journey in a VERY redshifted state and has
been progressively redshifted along the way by the expansion.

Do you understand now why the CMBR would be almost impossible to
detect in a big bang universe ?

But if spectral lines were generated on the same principle as
i.e. gamma rays from radioactive iron, they would begin their
post CMBR journey in a VERY blueshifted state and, through the
expansion, would be redshifted back toward how they appear here
in the present.

Some X-ray stars are going to confuse the hell out of you.

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Max Keon