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On Jan 14, 6:13 pm, "Max Keon" <maxk...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "Eric Gisse" <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fa4863cc-d511-40ee-949d-acba1dd9ba22@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Max Keon wrote:
> >> So what would the CMBR look like now? It would be virtually
> >> impossible to detect, wouldn't it!
> > ...you have got to be shitting me.
>
> Perhaps stepping through these excerpts from my previous post
> may help you understand.
>
> >> Spectral lines are generated on the same principle as the Caesium
> >> driven atomic clock, displaying gravitational redshift,
>
> Meaning that spectral lines generated from the natural harmonics
> of the charge structure of any molecule, slows with increasing
> depth into a gravity well, which is exactly how the Caesium atom
> charge configuration that drives an atomic clock behaves.
>
> >>      so the
> >> early universe would be redshifted enormously. And that would not
> >> be an illusion.
>
> The matter housed in the early universe was much closer together
> than it is today, wasn't it? So spectral lines would have been
> redshifted enormously at the time, wouldn't they?
>
> Even if our perception of time is directly linked to redshift so
> that locally generated spectral lines and clock frequencies are
> always of the same relative proportions, that wouldn't change
> how we currently (today) perceive the universe 13 billion years
> ago when the CMBR was first transmitted. Would it?
>
> >> Now get this part clear in your head. When we look back 13
> >> billion years in time we are looking at an expanded early
> >> universe that was already enormously redshifted at the time.
>
> Atomic clocks have proven beyond doubt that they run slower
> in a gravity well, and the rate of change is equal to the
> frequency change rate of atomic spectral lines. If there was no
> expansion, spectral lines from the CMBR era could not possibly
> start off as they appear today.
>
> >> So what would the CMBR look like now? It would be virtually
> >> impossible to detect, wouldn't it!
>
> The CMBR began its journey in a VERY redshifted state and has
> been progressively redshifted along the way by the expansion.
>
> Do you understand now why the CMBR would be almost impossible to
> detect in a big bang universe ?

You are a bleeding moron. The CMBR has been detected many times over
the past 40 years.

>
> But if spectral lines were generated on the same principle as
> i.e. gamma rays from radioactive iron, they would begin their
> post CMBR journey in a VERY blueshifted state and, through the
> expansion, would be redshifted back toward how they appear here
> in the present.
>
> Some X-ray stars are going to confuse the hell out of you.
>
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>
> Max Keon