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Re: Pound Rebka

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From: Max Keon
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:45
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"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 8, 5:25 pm, "Max Keon" <maxk...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
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>> So there's really no way to accommodate the stretching
>> wavelengths. Even a change in the speed of light isn't going to
>> help because that changes, only once, the number of waves that
>> can fit over the tower height. From there on, whatever is the
>> frequency generated at the tower base, is going to be _exactly_
>> the same frequency as that passing by the tower top.
>>
>> That experiment would demolish the integrated Sach-Wolfe effect,
>> along with the accursed big bang theory.

> It is just gravitational redshift. Jeeeezee...

The Integrated Sach-Wolfe Effect is entirely dependent on how
the results from the Pound and Rebka experiment are interpreted,
but that interpretation can't be right. The GPS system proves
beyond doubt that an atomic clock driven by a Caesium atom
oscillator runs slower nearer the Earth, yet the Pound-Rebka
experiment proves that an atomic clock driven by the gamma ray
generated by radioactive iron would run faster. In either case
the frequency generated at the source is all that's changing.

Neither of those options can prove anything because, from a fixed
source, if there is a change in frequency with altitude, that
wave pattern will be set in the very first transmission to the
receiver. The same number of waves as were generated must pass
by the receiver in each second. So the Integrated Sach-Wolfe
Effect is entirely hypothetical. There is no evidence whatever
to support it.

Then take both clocks back to the enormous concentration of
matter in the early universe. The Caesium clock would all but
stop, while the iron clock would run very fast. But neither
clock supports the big bang theory.

Spectral lines are generated on the same principle as the Caesium
driven atomic clock, displaying gravitational redshift, so the
early universe would be redshifted enormously. And that would not
be an illusion.

Now get this part clear in your head. When we look back 13
billion years in time we are looking at an expanded early
universe that was already enormously redshifted at the time.

So what would the CMBR look like now? It would be virtually
impossible to detect, wouldn't it!

>> If I had an atomic clock I would do the experiment myself. It's
>> so damn simple. And the result is so damn obvious.
>>
>>  http://members.optusnet.com.au/maxkeon/the1-1a.html
>> is the universe in which we all exist. The sooner you all accept
>> that fact the sooner we can get on with the job, whatever it is.

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Max Keon
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