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Article #16336Re: Pound Rebka
From: Ken S. Tucker
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:15
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:15
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On Jan 8, 2:13 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 8, 12:33 am, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote: > > > > > On Jan 7, 10:29 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 7, 6:18 am, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote: > > > > > On Jan 7, 10:36 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 7, 12:02 am, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 6, 10:50 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" <dynam...@vianet.on.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jan 6, 2:00 am, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jan 6, 12:01 am, Dono <sa...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 1:26 pm, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Let Nu0 the observed frequency at the bottom. > > > > > > > > > > Assuming that m = hNu / c^2 represents the > > > > > > > > > > photon's mass corresponding to the frequency Nu, > > > > > > > > > > Bad assumption, Marcel. Doesn't apply to the photon. > > > > > > > > > It is nice seeing trying mainstream physics instead of your standard > > > > > > > > > fare of pure crackpottery. > > > > > > > > > The proof of the pudding is in the eating: > > > > > > > > With that assumption, one straightforwardly gets > > > > > > > > > E0 = E + mgd > > > > > > > > = hNu + (hNu / c^2) * gd > > > > > > > > = hNu (1 + gd/c^2) > > > > > > > > = E (1 + gd/c^2) > > > > > > > > > This cannot be a mere coincidence. > > > > > > > > It's not coincidence, light energy, > > > > > > > like all energy is subject to the > > > > > > > Conservation of Energy, and is a > > > > > > > cornerstone of General Relativity. > > > > > > > > > Marcel Luttgens > > > > > > > > Good work, regards > > > > > > > Ken S. Tucker > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > I have added to my demonstration a justification of > > > > > > the assumption that the mass m of a photon can be > > > > > > expressed by the relation m = E / c^2 = hNu / c^2: > > > > > > Wrong by many orders of magnitude. > > > > > The mass E/c^2 has nothing to do with the photon > > > > rest mass! > > > Of course, I mean the *hypothetical* photon rest mass! > > Do I have to post the particle data group link again? The hypothesis > is wrong. > > > This precision is for Dono the Pencil. > > > > Idiot again. The formula E = mc^2 is only true at rest. > > > Now, according to Gisse, c is not a velocity! > > Idiot n+1 for some staggeringly huge n. > > The formula E = mc^2 is only true at rest since it is a special case > of the general formula E^2 = [mc^2]^2 + [pc]^2. > > Since your [latest] amazingly stupid vocalized thought shows you have > no idea where E = mc^2 comes from, I'll derive it for you. > > The four momentum of a massive particle is p^u = mU^u = (E, p) where p > is the typical 3-momentum and U^u is the particle's four velocity. A > massive particle has a squared four-velocity of -1. > > Form the scalar product of p^u. > > |p|^2 = g_uv p^u p^v = -E^2 + p^2 = - m^2 g_uv U^u U^v = - m^2 Gisse, listen to Roberts, you're screwed up, you've parroted the metric with NO KNOWLEDGE, "monkey see monkey do" Roberts will teach you that. Define your metrics AND WHY! ... Ken S.Tucker
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