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"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not going to teach you what you should already know.

> Max Keon wrote:
>> The difference is now 3502216 added cycles in 1.4e+21 cycles,
>> which is near enough to what is observed.

> Imagine that.

That result was generated assuming the gamma ray from the
radioactive iron frequency generator used in the Pound and Rebka
experiment was 1.4e21 hz. The choice of frequency was made to
suit my original requirement to generate 1 extra cycle according
to my erroneous equation. Doubling the gamma ray frequency
doubles the result. It could be just pure luck that the ray I
chose is close to the correct frequency, but maybe not. Is 1.4e21
hz the gamma ray frequency generated by radioactive iron?

But I see you are still having problems comprehending that the
conclusions drawn from the Pound and Rebka experiment are fatally
flawed. Get your head out of your bucket of numbers for a while
and think about it logically.

As BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> initially wrote:
>>>>> Light is blueshifted on its way into gravity.
>>>>> Light is redshifted on its way out.

A simple test of i.e. the latter statement is to set up an atomic
clock with a digital readout that can easily be read with a
telescope mounted at the Pound-Rebka tower top when the clock is
placed at the tower base. Every clock tick sends a signal to an
antenna and that is transmitted to the tower top, where every
passing cycle is recorded. The tower base cycle count is of
course monitored through the telescope.

The following set of figures still apply in determining
V for  f'= f(1+V/c^2)

  V(a) and V(b) for the tower base and tower top is:
      G = 6.67E-11
      M = 5.97E+24
      ra = 6378000   Tower base radii
      rb = 6378023   Tower top radii (+23 meters (74 feet) high)
  Va = G * M / ra = 62433207.902
  Vb = G * M / rb = 62432982.7597

Using 9192631763.6231 hz as the basic clock frequency "f",
 f'=f*(1+Va/c^2) = 9192631770.00004989
and
 f'=f*(1+Vb/c^2) = 9192631770.00002689
The difference is 2.3e-5 cycles per second.

After just 1 day, 2 less ticks have passed by the tower top
than were generated at the base. Where are they. The wavelength
is  c/f =.032 meters, * 2 = .064 meters per day. Could the
universe have expanded 64mm over the tower height in just 1 day?

Apparently not. Even if the universe was expanding locally, over
the tower length, the expansion is 4.9e-12 meters per day.

So there's really no way to accommodate the stretching
wavelengths. Even a change in the speed of light isn't going to
help because that changes, only once, the number of waves that
can fit over the tower height. From there on, whatever is the
frequency generated at the tower base, is going to be _exactly_
the same frequency as that passing by the tower top.

That experiment would demolish the integrated Sach-Wolfe effect,
along with the accursed big bang theory.

If I had an atomic clock I would do the experiment myself. It's
so damn simple. And the result is so damn obvious.

 http://members.optusnet.com.au/maxkeon/the1-1a.html
is the universe in which we all exist. The sooner you all accept
that fact the sooner we can get on with the job, whatever it is.

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Max Keon