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Article #16344Re: Pound Rebka
From: Dono
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:53
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:53
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On Jan 7, 1:29 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 7, 6:18 am, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote: > > > > > On Jan 7, 10:36 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 7, 12:02 am, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote: > > > > > On Jan 6, 10:50 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" <dynam...@vianet.on.ca> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 6, 2:00 am, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 6, 12:01 am, Dono <sa...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 1:26 pm, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote: > > > > > > > > > Let Nu0 the observed frequency at the bottom. > > > > > > > > Assuming that m = hNu / c^2 represents the > > > > > > > > photon's mass corresponding to the frequency Nu, > > > > > > > > Bad assumption, Marcel. Doesn't apply to the photon. > > > > > > > It is nice seeing trying mainstream physics instead of your standard > > > > > > > fare of pure crackpottery. > > > > > > > The proof of the pudding is in the eating: > > > > > > With that assumption, one straightforwardly gets > > > > > > > E0 = E + mgd > > > > > > = hNu + (hNu / c^2) * gd > > > > > > = hNu (1 + gd/c^2) > > > > > > = E (1 + gd/c^2) > > > > > > > This cannot be a mere coincidence. > > > > > > It's not coincidence, light energy, > > > > > like all energy is subject to the > > > > > Conservation of Energy, and is a > > > > > cornerstone of General Relativity. > > > > > > > Marcel Luttgens > > > > > > Good work, regards > > > > > Ken S. Tucker > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > I have added to my demonstration a justification of > > > > the assumption that the mass m of a photon can be > > > > expressed by the relation m = E / c^2 = hNu / c^2: > > > > Wrong by many orders of magnitude. > > > The mass E/c^2 has nothing to do with the photon > > rest mass! > > Idiot again. The formula E = mc^2 is only true at rest. > > > > > Marcel Luttgens > > > >http://pdg.lbl.gov/2007/listings/s000.pdf > > > > [snip] > > > > > Clearly, the above interpretation of the result of the > > > > Pound & Rebka experiment doesn't vindicate > > > > the general relativity prediction that clocks should run > > > > at different rates at different places in a gravitational field. > > > > Idiot. You have no idea what you are talking about. > > > > [snip remaining Watch for Marcel's comeback :-)
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