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Re: Pound Rebka

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From: mluttgens
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 09:33
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On Jan 7, 10:29 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 6:18 am, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
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> > On Jan 7, 10:36 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jan 7, 12:02 am, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
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> > > > On Jan 6, 10:50 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" <dynam...@vianet.on.ca> wrote:
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> > > > > On Jan 6, 2:00 am, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
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> > > > > > On Jan 6, 12:01 am, Dono <sa...@comcast.net> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Jan 5, 1:26 pm, mluttg...@wanadoo.fr wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Let Nu0 the observed frequency at the bottom.
> > > > > > > > Assuming that m = hNu / c^2 represents the
> > > > > > > > photon's mass corresponding to the frequency Nu,
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> > > > > > > Bad assumption, Marcel. Doesn't apply to the photon.
> > > > > > > It is nice seeing trying mainstream physics instead of your standard
> > > > > > > fare of pure crackpottery.
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> > > > > > The proof of the pudding is in the eating:
> > > > > > With that assumption, one straightforwardly gets
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> > > > > > E0 = E + mgd
> > > > > >      = hNu +  (hNu / c^2) * gd
> > > > > >      = hNu (1 + gd/c^2)
> > > > > >      = E (1 + gd/c^2)
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> > > > > > This cannot be a mere coincidence.
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> > > > > It's not coincidence, light energy,
> > > > > like all energy is subject to the
> > > > > Conservation of Energy, and is a
> > > > > cornerstone of General Relativity.
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> > > > > > Marcel Luttgens
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> > > > > Good work, regards
> > > > > Ken S. Tucker
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> > > > Thank you.
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> > > > I have added to my demonstration a justification of
> > > > the assumption that the mass m of a photon can be
> > > > expressed by the relation m = E / c^2 = hNu / c^2:
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> > > Wrong by many orders of magnitude.
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> > The mass E/c^2 has nothing to do with the photon
> > rest mass!

Of course, I mean the *hypothetical* photon rest mass!
This precision is for Dono the Pencil.

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> Idiot again. The formula E = mc^2 is only true at rest.
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Now, according to Gisse, c is not a velocity!
Instead of uttering stupidities, you should better
recognize that the combination of E = mc^2 with E = hNu
straightforwardly expains the result of the Pound
& Rebka experiment.

Gisse, you are acting like a true crackpot.

Marcel Luttgens


> > Marcel Luttgens
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> > >http://pdg.lbl.gov/2007/listings/s000.pdf
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> > > [snip]
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> > > > Clearly, the above interpretation of the result of the
> > > > Pound & Rebka experiment doesn't vindicate
> > > > the general relativity prediction that clocks should run
> > > > at different rates at different places in a gravitational field.
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> > > Idiot. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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> > > [snip remaining)
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Subject: Re: Pound Rebka
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