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Re: Pound Rebka

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From: John C. Polasek
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:51
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On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:42:29 GMT, "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote:

>"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:30d40ddf-3af0-4765-9287-ca83ba2b25a5@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>Mitch Raemsch aka BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Light is blueshifted on its way into gravity.
>Light is redshifted on its way out.
>>
>Pentcho Valev wrote:
>Sometimes even Einsteinians explain this correctly:
>< http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp > ...
>...  since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the
>Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der
>Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the
>gravitational potential. One can find his calculation in his paper.
>The result is c'= c(1+V/c^2) where V is the gravitational
>potential relative to the point where the measurement is
>taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL
>REDSHIFT FACTOR."
>>
>Pentcho Valev wrote:
>Pound and Rebka found experimentally that the GRAVITATIONAL
>REDSHIFT obeys the equation f'= f(1+V/c^2), which is consistent
>with Einstein's 1911 equation c'= c(1+V/c^2) and the textbook
>formula:   ---  frequency = (speed of light)/(wavelength)
>>>
>"Max Keon" <maxk...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>In 1960, using the Mossbauer effect, Pound and Rebka succeeded
>in measuring the extremely small change (only about 1 part in 4e+14)
>of frequency of the ** y-rays ** emitted by a sample of radioactive iron
>when it was moved from the bottom of the tower to the top of a tower
>74 feet high. The observed frequency change agreed with the
>relativity prediction within 5%."
>According to your equation  f'= f(1+V/c^2)
>V(a) and V(b) for the tower base and tower top is:
>G = 6.67E-11
>M = 5.97E+24
>ra = 6378000   Tower base radii
>rb = 6378023   Tower top radii (+23 meters (74 feet) high)
>Va = G * M / ra ^ 2  = 9.7888378648735791276869837432118
>Vb = G * M / rb ^ 2  = 9.7887672652959533370556770582427
>>
>[Eric Gisse]
>Potential energy is GM/r, idiot. You wrote down force.
>[snip remaining]
>>
>[hanson]
>It is not very clear what Potential *energy* Eric is talking about
>and for that matter what force. When I look at Eric's equation of
>Potential energy = GM/r where presumably G = L^3*M^-1*T^-2
>then Eric's Potential energy becomes a phenomenon, an event,
>with the dimension of L^2/T^2, a squared velocity, which is as
>mysterious as are  Keon's "y-rays"... but both of which appear
>to produce a mutual benefit for the mysterious term of "idiot".
>Thanks for the laughs, guys... ahahahaha... ahahahanson
>
>
I'll just add this so you don't make such an ass of yourself.
The potential energy MG/4 is equal to V^2/2 terminal velocity if
dropped from infinity to R. 
John Polasek
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