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Article #16372Re: Pound Rebka
From: hanson
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:57
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:57
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"John C. Polasek" <jpolasek@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:atutn3l8ceqbc38v4v6on8jeumsl2di3fc@4ax.com... > On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:42:29 GMT, "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote: > >>"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message >>news:30d40ddf-3af0-4765-9287-ca83ba2b25a5@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>> >>Mitch Raemsch aka BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>Light is blueshifted on its way into gravity. >>Light is redshifted on its way out. >>> >>Pentcho Valev wrote: >>Sometimes even Einsteinians explain this correctly: >>< http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp > ... >>... since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the >>Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der >>Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the >>gravitational potential. One can find his calculation in his paper. >>The result is c'= c(1+V/c^2) where V is the gravitational >>potential relative to the point where the measurement is >>taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL >>REDSHIFT FACTOR." >>> >>Pentcho Valev wrote: >>Pound and Rebka found experimentally that the GRAVITATIONAL >>REDSHIFT obeys the equation f'= f(1+V/c^2), which is consistent >>with Einstein's 1911 equation c'= c(1+V/c^2) and the textbook >>formula: --- frequency = (speed of light)/(wavelength) >>>> >>"Max Keon" <maxk...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>In 1960, using the Mossbauer effect, Pound and Rebka succeeded >>in measuring the extremely small change (only about 1 part in 4e+14) >>of frequency of the ** y-rays ** emitted by a sample of radioactive iron >>when it was moved from the bottom of the tower to the top of a tower >>74 feet high. The observed frequency change agreed with the >>relativity prediction within 5%." >>According to your equation f'= f(1+V/c^2) >>V(a) and V(b) for the tower base and tower top is: >>G = 6.67E-11 >>M = 5.97E+24 >>ra = 6378000 Tower base radii >>rb = 6378023 Tower top radii (+23 meters (74 feet) high) >>Va = G * M / ra ^ 2 = 9.7888378648735791276869837432118 >>Vb = G * M / rb ^ 2 = 9.7887672652959533370556770582427 >>> >>[Eric Gisse] >>Potential energy is GM/r, idiot. You wrote down force. >>[snip remaining] >>> >>[hanson] >>It is not very clear what Potential *energy* Eric is talking about >>and for that matter what force. When I look at Eric's equation of >>Potential energy = GM/r where presumably G = L^3*M^-1*T^-2 >>then Eric's Potential energy becomes a phenomenon, an event, >>with the dimension of L^2/T^2, a squared velocity, which is as >>mysterious as are Keon's "y-rays"... but both of which appear >>to produce a mutual benefit for the mysterious term of "idiot". >>Thanks for the laughs, guys... ahahahaha... ahahahanson >> [John C. Polasek] > I'll just add this so you don't make such an ass of yourself. > The potential energy MG/4 is equal to V^2/2 terminal velocity if > dropped from infinity to R. > John Polasek > [hanson] .... ahahahahaha... But John, it is not clear here who that "you" really is, because **energy**, potential of otherwise, is defined as a dimensional identify of M*L^2/T^2 and hence MG/(4 or n) will have the dimension of M * L^3*M^-1*T^-2 = L^3/T^2 which is NOT any velocity^2. --- v^2 has a L^2/T^2 dimension. > So, John do clarify your statement or you may fall victim to the same queer mentation as does Karandash aka "Dono", the Homo, who Dunno aka <sa_ge at comcast.net> who has posted and attributed to himself lately , that he, the "fa_ge-le", was a http://eldoradoclub.net/images/wacko-lg_1_.gif and to boot also insists that he is http://devilskitchen-chilli.co.uk/Liquid%20Stoopid.jpg and then he proudly claims to be a http://www.movv.com/prvupload/uploads/super_retard_stfu.jpg and adds one more confession to his own wrap sheet stating that he is a http://politicalpartypoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/retard.jpg and presenting himself in grand style in/as http://www.ntoddblog.org/photos/atriots/asshat.jpg and reveals a picture of himself to reassert that he Karandash aka "Dono", the Homo, who Dunno has realized that he is the http://shop.abc.net.au/multimediaitems/images/product_images/5/500188.jpg > Thanks for the laughs... ahahaha... ahahahanson
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