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"W@W" <W@W.com> wrote in message 
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> What God? Yours, my neighbor, my aunt's. 
> I personally don't trust God. Look
> at all the shit he did in the first testament. 
> He's a lunatic. How can you
> trust such a monster?
> Fuck God.

Sir, sir!... Please: Calm yourself. And put 
your trust in the Easter Bunny instead:
I assure you that he will not betray your
so obviously delicate need for creatures 
of the imagination to live up to your trust
... in your imagination.

S D Rodrian
poems.sdrodrian.com
physics.sdrodrian.com

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> "S D Rodrian" <sdr@sdrodrian.com> wrote in message
> news:bf7b874e.0206272250.62f7885d@posting.google.com...
> > "Robert Carroll" <rcarroll@bestweb.net> wrote in message
> > news:<uhkqt4r7us6650@corp.supernews.com>...
> > >
> > > > >U.S. Court Says Pledge of Allegiance Unconstitutional
>  
> > > > Well, some of us who learned the Pledge before the "under God"
> > > > bit was put in never did add those words.  Now that my dirty
> > > > secret is out I expect Homeland Security Agents to knock on
> > > > my door as I post this.  I'll doubtless be held incommunicado
> > > > for the next several years as an enemy of the state.
> > >
> > > Exactly right.  Since the "under God" shoehorn, I've simply omitted
>  those
> > > words when I recite the pledge.  (yes, I remember when it happened).  I
> > > always thought it was "beyond the pale"  Nice to know that the law is
> > > catching up.  I have nothing against religious sentiments, it's the
> > > mandatory part that bothers me.
> >
> > It shall soon be overturned by the Supreme Court
> > before you can say, "Amen." Simply put... this IS
> > a "nation under God." Period. It's nice to believe
> > that humanity will progress towards a time when
> > it shall no longer promote superstition; but that time
> > is far, far in the future. (Perhaps evolution itself
> > might have to put in its tweak or two before this
> > happens.)
> >
> > Just feel lucky we live in a country where superstition
> > is not after your hide ... any longer. My neighbors
> > believe in all manner of supernatural critters, gods,
> > ghosts (spirits, souls), angels, demons, wonkers &
> > baboongers... but at least they don't practice human
> > sacrifice any longer, and that's gotta be worth something!
> >
> > Sure, it's awkward when the horrors inflicted upon us
> > by Islamic superstition occasion NOT a call against
> > the stupidity/dangers of superstition but claims that
> > The Great Baboonger doesn't really sanction that
> > sort of mass murder (as other of His faithful followers
> > assert as sincerely)... but that He's really a nice guy,
> > once you get to know Him. But if I can live with cretins
> > like these and those, and I don't see why you shouldn't.
> >
> > I think I've always known there was no God. And, to
> > be honest, I've never met anybody who has claimed
> > to know God existed somewhere. Sure, some cretin
> > who claims he knows there's a God will usually reply
> > (to your, "No kidding! How do you know this?): "Because
> > the little flowers bloom in the Spring!" Or some such.
> > Good Lord! I mean, I thought that was what made the
> > internal combustion engine go, after all!
> >
> > However, you all know perfectly well that only madmen
> > speak to God, don't you? That's the usual litmus test,
> > at any rate: "And, you say you can speak with Jesus?"
> > "I should say I do." "Well, do you or don't you?" "Watch
> > this: O Jesus, I would like to ask you for a fiver?" And, as
> > Jesus replies: "What is Jesus saying?" "He is saying
> > that I can certainly ask, but whether I'm gett'n it... that's
> > something else entirely." Results: "Nuts. Next."
> >
> > The problem is that the brain finds itself in a curious
> > predicament: Ours is necessarily a reality where there
> > can not be even the slightest exception from the law
> > of cause/effect (there cannot be a causeless effect), and
> > that pretty much precludes true "free will" and all the other
> > delusions the brain has evolved ... to "delude" itself into
> > the "feeling" that we are conscious beings "detached"
> > from the absolute slavery of cause/effect that all the other
> > objects of this reality must obey... billiard balls & rain drops.
> >
> > IF there were no God/soul/etc. whom would we sue for
> > the hot coffee we spilled on our lap? (It would certainly
> > bring down human civilization as we know it.) However,
> > "things are NOT a matter of cause/effect," God works in a
> > mysterious way His blunders to perform, and, being the
> > imperfect creations of a clumsy God... the coffee-heating
> > attendants at MacDonald's are eminently culpable and
> > sue-able for their mistakes/errors. Otherwise every moron
> > who hits himself over the head with a brick would have to
> > accept the self-evident judgment of Fate (that he or she is
> > a moron), and that would be unacceptable: "What?! This
> > brick didn't carry any warning against hitting myself over
> > the head with it--I'm suing those brick-making bastards!"
> > [Jenny vs Thick Bricks, settled out of court for: $134,000]
> >
> > As long as there are men they will believe in God: I myself
> > know for a fact that not only is there no God but that there
> > could NEVER have been NOR even ever could possibly
> > be a God and yet I believe in Him ("one of'em" at any rate),
> > for I cannot go for more than 60 seconds without praying
> > to Him: "O thou Nameless God, please hold the green!"
> > (Of course, I usually shorten it to, "Hope I make it!" or some
> > such. But, after all: WHOM the "fone" do you imagine
> > I'm talking to sitting by myself in my car, for Heavens' sake!?
> > And never you mind what I pray to Him when I don't make it.
> >
> > A simple truth we all accept is incompatible with the
> > existence of God IN the world: "The whole is greater
> > than the part." (Unless God is just some guy living in
> > Cleveland, of course.) But, as you saw above, belief
> > in (a) God is irrational, and not subject to reason or
> > logic. (Don't try this on Georgia Christians because they
> > know this is why God had to send Jesus INTO the world,
> > instead of worming in here Himself. Or some such)
> > Others, of course, will think we are traveling through
> > God's tripes (but I wouldn't put too much stock in this,
> > as it's all liable to become quite enematic).   [sic]
> >
> > But, "seriously," the case against God is easily made by
> > your dog, of all people, who NEVER checks to make sure
> > the room he's ambling into hasn't, by some miracle (Act
> > of God), been turned into the belly of a shark (it could
> > happen... God might be feeling mischievous that day):
> > This means that across the millions & million of years
> > the animal brain (ours included) has been evolving: it
> > hath never needed to adapt to a God in its environment.
> > Man, on the other hand, has... needed to adapt to God
> > in his environment, and to pixies, leprechauns, little green
> > men, as well as alien abductions and conspiracy theories.
> >
> > The thing that gets my goat is that the Pledge of Allegiance
> > is one of the few stupid things I've managed to memorize!
> > Now they're getting rid of it?! (I mean, is it, "gave proof through
> > the night" or "through the fight"?) Shouldn't it have been,
> > "gave proof at the sight ...?" (Ok, maybe, "at its sight...") "Site?"
> > Oh, well, maybe that's why I just can't seem to remember it.
> >
> > I do remember that once down in Florida, when pledging
> > allegiance to the flag ... out of the blue some Seminole kid
> > spat on the damned thing! Well, we almost fainted en masse.
> > We were certain the teachers were obliged (by Law?) to
> > immediately take the kid out and hang him from the flag pole
> > or something (at least, that's the impression we all had from the
> > sacred solemnity inspired in us by the holy ritual of the Pledge
> > of Allegiance). And we were all unbelievably relieved when all
> > they did was to make the kid take a note to his parents--That's
> > when I first realized how lucky were were to be living in this
> > country, superstitious or not. It's like that here. And Western
> > civilization is the end product of a historical process spanning
> > thousands of years of democratic values triumphing against
> > superstition (so that even when people carry on with their pet
> > superstitions, they know enough not to surrender democracy
> > to them)... for the most part.
> >
> > Perhaps this is the best we can hope for: that we pay but
> > lip service to our superstitions. Certainly I cannot imagine
> > a "human" brain free of the superstition that, regardless
> > what causes it to move towards this or that, it yet has the
> > ability to weave life into whatever it ultimately picks/chooses
> > ... without such a conviction leading to a complete loss of
> > confidence and sense of purpose ... a sort-of fatal paralysis.
> > I can certainly cite many dumb things in my own life such a
> > conviction has certainly kept me from enjoying.
> >
> > So I don't think it'll be the end of the world when the Supreme
> > Court puts "the nation's under God" claim back into the Pledge
> > of Allegiance; or does nothing about the dollar's "trust in God"
> > although, no doubt, all the atheists will be praying against it.
> >
> > The world is a funny place, after all.
> >
> > S D Rodrian
> > poems.sdrodrian.com
> > physics.sdrodrian.com