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Re: Big bang question

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From: S D Rodrian
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:47
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KenM <kjmalla@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> S D Rodrian wrote:

>> There are NO absolutes inside the universe: None.

>>> Isn't that an absolute? Prove that there are no absolutes in
>>> the universe.

>> I don't have to, you little trickster, you: You ALREADY KNOW
>> IT IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE (and are only asking me to prove to you
>> something you already know is already proved because you are
>> such an obvious smarty-pants, already).

>> What'd'ya think, I was born yesterday?!?! Baby, when you
>> were setting out... that was me already coming back:

   Helloooo!

>> I'm wise to you, you know! Sorry, but you KNOW for a fact
>> that THERE ARE NO ABSOLUTES IN THE UNIVERSE--Otherwise you
>> wouldn't be SO damn ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN my statement above
>> could NOT be a provable absolute... that you felt confident
>> enough to challenge me as boldly and perilously as you did!

>> Proved enough?... or shall I send in the clowns now?

Wow! Didn't have to... They're coming in on their own (toy cars):

> He who asserts must prove. You asserted there are no absolutes in the
> universe. So prove it.

Obviously my reply went way over your head: Look up!

Prove what?... What everybody already accepts as proved?!?!?!

Those who say that the statement "there are no absolutes in
the universe" is an absolute, are agreeing with it (contending
as they are implicitly doing that "that absolute" cannot possibly    [sic] 
exist in the universe, while dragging in all the other absolutes 
in the universe into their contention). While those who agree 
with it, obviously have better ways to waste their lives and want 
to go on to the important things in such lives, already, like TV.

For the rest of us, however: IF anybody disputed the fact that 
the statement "there are no absolutes in the universe" is NOT an 
absolute... they would be agreeing that it is so true a statement
that it even includes its opposite (what? that there ARE absolutes
there?!... which is what he/she would be agreeing with in their
obvious disagreement... or, that the statement IS an absolute--which 
is what it says it cannot be). So: Its proof would be self-evident. 

[What the hell is there to prove when you already understand the 
statement is not an absolute?!?! This is your clue to leave the Hall
... along with sanity. And if you happen to find a red whistle with 
the portrait of a beagle: there's a nickle reward waiting for the finder.]
Otherwise, if you agree with it: You should be ashamed of yourself, for
you would be agreeing that indeed there are no absolutes in the universe
... so again I ask you: Proving what "absolute" are we talking about? 
Think about it for as long as you need to... nobody's pushing you... 
there are no brinks or cliffs on the horizon (only dark clouds).

In this case... the fact that the statement "there are no absolutes 
in the universe" can not possibly be an absolute IS the very proof 
you are requesting of there being no absolutes in the universe, you see? 

Kindly leading the blind,

S D Rodrian
Ringmaster of The Theater of The World is A Funny Place.

> Write a paper...create a website!!!! Invent an inflationary dark matter
> red shifted cosmic radiated blob to help prove your point! Why not?
> Everybody does it!!!!
> 
> -k

Been there, done that:

http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com
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From: sdr@sdrodrian.com (S D Rodrian)
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Subject: Re: Big bang question
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