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Article #16811Re: Alouette et Taliban /S D Rodrian
From: Everett Hickey
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 08:35
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 08:35
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-- "S D Rodrian" <sdr@sdrodrian.com> wrote in message news:bf7b874e.0112061820.316193ee@posting.google.com... > "Everett Hickey" <lithium@ev1.net> wrote in message news:<3c0f9df9$1_1@newsa.ev1.net>... > > So by that logic, Christianity carries an even greater death toll... > > By whatever logic of yours you are right and the whole world > is wrong, of course. But we're talking facts here: > > Yes, many crimes have been committed by non-Muslims. > Yes, non-Muslims continue to commit crimes even now. > > The Nazis and communists carried out impressive genocides. > > They were not Muslims. > > And although they were indeed Christians (including most of > the atheist commies), their genocides were neither encouraged > nor sanctioned by either The Gospels or the Pope. > > ALL The genocides by Muslims were encouraged and sanctioned > by the Koran AND by Islamic religious leaders. > > There's a distinction here which, granted, as a defender of > Islam (or of anything anti-Christian, probably) you might > never acknowledge. But others will. In other words you ignored my points. I made specific arguments as to why I think that the christian deathtoll has been higher... two millenia of christian conflict, compared tohalf a millenia where islam spent much of it's time in a state of peace... something europe never knew. I HAD thought you were making a serious argument, but now I think you're just looking for any excuse, and know of a few historical tidbits to throw out. As for sanctioning... oh hell yes the Quoran can easily be interpreted as giving sanction for jihad. Unlike the Bible, which can easily be interpreted as giving permission to kill not only all of other faiths, but also anyone not genetically related to you, anyone who has something that you desperately need, or anyone who you feel has sinned. The Old Testament, like it or not, is a primary component of the Bible, and just as the Quoran is riddled with outdated ideals, so is the Old Testament (but even worse). Oh, and I'm no Defender of Islam... or an anti-Christian... if you were blasting Christianity I'd probably be in your face just as fast. I just don't like people using religion as an excuse for hatred.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10f2fd,1b2379f37812aed8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10f2fd,public X-Google-Thread: fdc67,1b2379f37812aed8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdc67,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,1b2379f37812aed8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: f442a,1b2379f37812aed8 X-Google-Attributes: gidf442a,public X-Google-Thread: f871d,1b2379f37812aed8 X-Google-Attributes: gidf871d,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-12-07 06:39:15 PST From: "Everett Hickey" <lithium@ev1.net> Newsgroups: sci.physics,gac.physics.astronomy,alt.sci.physics,alt.chaos,alt.astronomy References: <58087ec7.0111280725.65152a00@posting.google.com> <20011203230158.10454.00000624@mb-co.aol.com> <bf7b874e.0112041912.334e2ada@posting.google.com> <albert-618639.06134205122001@corp.supernews.com> <bf7b874e.0112060748.74c6b35d@posting.google.com> <3c0f9df9$1_1@newsa.ev1.net> <bf7b874e.0112061820.316193ee@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Alouette et Taliban /S D Rodrian Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 08:35:56 -0000 Lines: 55 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.218.193.153 Message-ID: <3c10d27a$1_1@newsa.ev1.net> X-Trace: newsa.ev1.net 1007735418 207.218.193.153 (7 Dec 2001 08:30:18 -0600) Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.uchicago.edu!newsfeed.cs.wisc.edu!nnxp1.twtelecom.net!newsa.ev1.net