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Re: Alouette et Taliban /S D Rodrian

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From: Jonathan Silverlight
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 08:50
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In message <bf7b874e.0112061820.316193ee@posting.google.com>, S D 
Rodrian <sdr@sdrodrian.com> writes
>"Everett Hickey" <lithium@ev1.net> wrote in message 
>news:<3c0f9df9$1_1@newsa.ev1.net>...
>> > >> vaelynphi@aol.com (Vaelyn Phi) wrote in message
>> > >> news:<20011203230158.10454.00000624@mb-co.aol.com>...
>> > >>> I think you've mistakenly applied to Islam what is a disease to all
>>  large
>> > >>> religions in the world.  I mean, hell, it's not like Muslims are the
>>  only
>> > >>> people who around killing non-Muslims.  (Think "Crusades!")
>> > >>
>> > >> To date the victims of Islam amount to 60 million human souls
>> > >> and growing. Whatever else, all other evil that has ever been
>> > >> attributed to organized groups, ALL OF IT PUT TOGETHER, by Nazis
>> > >> and Genghis Khan -and ALL OF IT- pale in comparison. 'Nough said.
>> > >>
>> > >> S D Rodrian
>> > >> poems.sdrodrian.com
>> > >> physics.sdrodrian.com
>> > >
>> > > Where did you get those startling numbers.
>> >
>> > From historical records (most startling of all: even from
>> >
>> > [such as http://www.hinduunity.com/ayodhya/asuraevidence.html ]
>> >
>> > Islamic historians, for some of whom the numbers of the victims
>> > are something to boast about--As if one were listening to
>> > Nazi historians tally up the number of murdered Jews... of
>> > course, the Islamic historians did not look at it from our
>> > present kind human perspective but from their very unkind
>> > and inhuman one): This is beginning to change, of course...
>> > as one can see from the stubborn fight the Turks put up
>> > trying to deny that their Armenian genocide (add upwards to
>> > as many as a million and a half victims to the tally of
>> > Islamic genocide), to deny that it ever even took place...
>> > something they STILL deny to this day even after the entire
>> > European community of nations issued a "universal" declaration
>> > that it DID take place. Here's one link on what Jihad is:
>>
>> So by that logic, Christianity carries an even greater death toll...
>
>By whatever logic of yours you are right and the whole world
>is wrong, of course. But we're talking facts here:
>
>Yes, many crimes have been committed by non-Muslims.
>Yes, non-Muslims continue to commit crimes even now.
>
>The Nazis and communists carried out impressive genocides.
>
>They were not Muslims.
>
>And although they were indeed Christians (including most of
>the atheist commies), their genocides were neither encouraged
>nor sanctioned by either The Gospels or the Pope.

This is way off topic, but I'll just remind everyone that the Pope 
supported the Nazis during World War II, and Catholic charities helped 
SS war criminals escape when the war was clearly lost.
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From: Jonathan Silverlight <jsilver@merseia.fsnet.co.uk>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,gac.physics.astronomy,alt.sci.physics,alt.chaos,alt.astronomy
Subject: Re: Alouette et Taliban /S D Rodrian
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