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Article #4060Re: How old is the universe?
From: Steve Carlip
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:53
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:53
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In article <1a3j6vINNsh9@agate.berkeley.edu> ted@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Emory F. Bunn) writes: >[...] >I believe, based on my >admittedly limited understanding of measure theory, that the space >of 3-geometries is simply "too big" to admit a well-behaved measure >that would allow one to talk about probabilites. (I have formed >some vague arguments in my mind in support of this position, >but they're far from being rigorous enough to convince anyone else.) > >I hope that I am wrong about this, as I think it would be very nice >to have such a measure. Is there anyone out there who can be more >definitive about this than I can? > Well, there are certainly plenty of "physicists' measures" on the space of three-geometries. This space admits a natural metric, the DeWitt metric, and (as is traditional in physics) one can ignore the fact that the space is infinite-dimensional and use this metric to define a measure. Once you have one such measure, you have a lot, since you can multiply by any reasonable positive function on the space of geometries. (For anyone who wants to be picky, it is true that the DeWitt metric is really a metric on the space of _metrics_ rather than the space of geometries. To get the metric on the space of geometries, you have to "gauge-fix" and factor out the coordinate transformations. But this is fairly standard, and in fact, unlike the rest of the construction, can be done in a reasonably rigorous fashion, thanks to the work of David Ebin, a mathematician who has studied the space of geometries fairly carefully.) Of course, the fact that the space of geometries is infinite-dimensional does cause problems in defining these measures rigorously. There are a number of possible approaches. You can approximate the smooth geometries by flat simplicial complexes (the three-dimensional version of the approximation of a hemisphere by a geodesic dome), for instance, or you can define a measure by requiring that Gaussian integrals be properly normalized. For more formally inclined physicists like John Baez, these procedures are not completely satisfying, but for most of us they'll do for the moment. Having said this, though, I completely agree with you that we have no idea of the _correct_ measure on the space of three-geometries. One of the main goals of quantum cosmology is precisely to find such a measure. A lot of the fine-tuning and naturalness arguments you criticize can be translated into statements about this measure; for instance, we would like to have it sharply peaked around geometries for which the cosmological constant is very small (in Planck units). There are a number of proposals for how to do this --- for instance, Hawking's "no boundary" wave function would define a measure on three-geometries --- but we're a long way from a believable model. Steve Carlip carlip@dirac.ucdavis.edu
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!news.univie.ac.at!chx400!zeus.ieee.org!rutgers!jvnc.net!darwin.sura.net!wupost!csus.edu!ucdavis!landau.ucdavis.edu!carlip From: carlip@landau.ucdavis.edu (Steve Carlip) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: How old is the universe? Message-ID: <17644@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> Date: 29 Sep 92 17:53:16 GMT References: <19tid9INNo1h@agate.berkeley.edu> <17584@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> <1a3j6vINNsh9@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu Organization: Physics, UC Davis Lines: 53