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From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin)
Subject: Re: Standard QM rules out FTL correlation signals, simplest proof.
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:34:54 GMT
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bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton) writes:

>In article <1d1tk9INNsk8@network.ucsd.edu> mbk@lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt
Kennel) writes:>>svetlich@math.rutgers.edu (George Svetlichny) writes:
>>: Thus standard QM does not allow for correlation signals between
commuting observables. Space-like separated observables commute, so there
are no correlation signals between them *at all*, be they superluminal,
luminal,or subluminal.
>>
>>How are conservation laws enforced?

>Spottily.

Sarfatti replies: "The only reason it is falsely believed that commuting
observables forbid signals is that it is falsely thought that no Heisenberg
incompatibility exists for commuting observables.  However, Heisenberg
incompatibility can exist between commuting observables in presence of
entanglement! Then the skeptics claim that it is impossible to manipulate
this entanglement incompatibility of commuting observables- except I show
that you can manipulate it with a specific counter example.

In short any claim that commuting observables forbid communication is dead
wrong - a false criterion for communication.

It is then said that local unitary time evolutions forbid the shifting of
probabilities at a dsitance. This too is wrong in presence of non-unitary
measurement plus entanglement plus coherence - all these factors combine
together to permit connection communication. Let experiment decide!"