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Article #8008Re: PBS show on Tornadoes and possible help as to how they form
From: Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 11:44
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 11:44
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Just take basic Physics 101, Fool ! The clockwise or anticlockwise spin in your bathtub drain is generated by the De Coriolis forces .... and the subject is well documented indeed ! Now to find out the cause of the De Coriolis forces or to say the reasons behind the observable effects, you will have to undertake basic tuition in the True Geology, and True Physics therefore, since both fast anchored into the UPL. ... and at the present time since banned for life from the LOB, I won't be able to deliver that much needed lecture on the True Geology subject at the ANU ... and consequently indeed in a foreseeable future ! Yep ! Full apologies from both Federal and WA Governments + return to me of my Great Sandy Desert Mining Properties will be the unescapable pre-requisites !!! ... as for volcanic activity, it is related to the phenomena of Earth Expansion which is part indeed of the True Geology teaching ! ( again making sense within the UPL understanding ) Further the more volcanism is related to thickness of the Lithosphere whereby as the Lithosphere thickens beyond a certain point _ like on Mars _ Quakes are impossible !!! and the result is completely debrided Volcanism ( to wit Olympus Mons 22 km height ) Volcanism is the only solution for the planet to adapt itself to the continuous decreasing Cosmic Density Atmospheric conditions ( notion proper to the True Geology ) ! ... and in this case Volcanism is a matter of Adapting or Blasting away ! ... a question of life or death at the planetary level As a additional note, I wish you would not add your most ridiculous assumptions to the present Gogological Theories, in force at the present time on sci.geo.geology ng The poor dumb things masquerading as Geologists ( plain Rock Surveyors in fact ) have their plates full indeed trying to cope with the superior understanding from the True Geology, and which I condescend from time to time to feed into their completely Universities lobotomised & programmed minds. Please take heed, then !!! ... and don't add difficulty to us the True Geologists to teach those poor Zombified Gogologists a bit of common sense Physics ! Thank you ! -- Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud Australian Mining Pioneer Hydro & Mining Prospector _ Senior Geologist Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer; Kintyre & Nifty Mines The Great Sandy Desert.of Australia Discoverer of the South Atlantic Submarine Gold Placers ( 40 Millions Tons estimate ) Founder of the TRUE GEOLOGY "THE GOLDEN RULE" "Gold and Intrigue in the Desert" "The true story of the discovery of the Telfer gold mine" Author : Bob Sheppard, President of the Australian Prospectors' Union Author's contact & web page : www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/ Order from : Hesperian Press, PO Box 317 Victoria Park, 6979 W.Australia. AUS 40.00 + post Published in Perth 15th December 2002 * The Greatest Australian Mining Covered Up Swindle Of The 20th Century http://membres.lycos.fr/jpturcaud/ ( Scuttled on Oct 29th 2003 under the Mining Criminals' cheers, and having reached over 92 MHits ) * The True Geology http://membres.lycos.fr/jpt ( Was also wound up on Oct 29th 2003 due to plagiarism hazards ) ~~Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~ "Archimedes Plutonium" <a_plutonium@iw.net> a οΏ½crit dans le message de news:406D1019.45958992@iw.net... > I remember an old PBS show on Volcanoes where advances in that science > now allow for practical predictions. The advance if my memory serves me > at all was that there are 2 waves in seismographs of the large wave and > then of another somewhat hidden wave. The advance came when it was > recognized that this hidden wave fairly predicts when a volcano will > become dangerous. > > Last Tuesday on PBS was a show on Tornadoes and it was stated in that > program that how tornadoes are created are still a mystery. It was > mentioned that a powerful downdraft seems to always precede the > formation of a tornado. And it was discovered that small rotary or > vortices of wind at the ground seems to help in the formation of a > twister Tornado. It was said on the show that the creation of Tornadoes > cannot be predicted and cannot be modeled. > > I am going to try to make a stab at perhaps a furtherance to > understanding Tornadoes. It may or may not help but when in such a > situation a try is better than nothing. > > What I propose is that there does exist a physics model or analogy to a > tornado and surprizingly no-one on the show spoke of it. I am refering > to the bathtub drain when lifted becomes a vortex twister. So these > physics phenomenon of bathtub drain of water is similar to Tornado > twisters only one is water and the other is air. What starts the water > twister is simply a hole of the drain. What then starts the Tornado is > another hole. But what kind of "hole"? > > Now I am going to try another trick. I am going to throw the idea that a > Volcano has 2 waves to monitor and the 2nd wave is a predictor of > eruption. A Volcano erupting is analogous to the bathtub drain creating > a spiral of water only in the volcano it is in the opposite direction. > In the bathtub it is gravity and in the volcano it is mounting pressure > to release. So, now, if volcanoes have 2 waves to monitor then does a > bathtub drain have 2 waves to monitor? And transferring that logic to a > Tornado. Does a Tornado in some respects act like a bathtub drain and > does a Tornado act like a volcano and does a Tornado have 2 waves > involved? > > So I am trying to cross analogize bathtub drain to tornado to volcano > and since volcanoes are somewhat predictable, perhaps there are 2 waves > involved in tornadoes and then make them predictable. > > I would guess that the waves of tornadoes since they exist as in > volcanoes, involve the amount of energy latent in the skys during a > thunderstorm. If a thunderstorm does not have the energy to create "hail > particles" then it probably does not have the energy to create a tornado > or at least a dangerous tornado. So one of the waves involves the latent > energy of the skys to create a tornado. The other wave involves the > downdraft energy. > > Also, earthquake predictions seem to be another phenomenon we have > little luck in predicting. But earthquakes seem unrelated to bathtub > drains. And it seems as though we should be able to predict tornadoes in > the future long before we get a handle on predicting earthquakes. > > Archimedes Plutonium > www.iw.net/~a_plutonium > www.archimedesplutonium.com > whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots > of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies >
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 10e4c9,47f347daa8d28a79,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10e4c9,public X-Google-Thread: fd648,47f347daa8d28a79,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfd648,public X-Google-Thread: 104f8c,7352db44a31b0f48 X-Google-Attributes: gid104f8c,public X-Google-Thread: 112f4a,47f347daa8d28a79,start X-Google-Attributes: gid112f4a,public X-Google-Thread: 10df0c,47f347daa8d28a79,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10df0c,public X-Google-Thread: 111000,47f347daa8d28a79,start X-Google-Attributes: gid111000,public X-Google-Thread: 105f92,47f347daa8d28a79,start X-Google-Attributes: gid105f92,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,7352db44a31b0f48 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-02 03:44:45 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.cs.univ-paris8.fr!fr.ip.ndsoftware.net!grolier!v.t-online.fr!t-online.fr!not-for-mail From: "Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" <jpturcaud@true-geology.edu> Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.geo.geology,sci.geo.earthquakes,sci.bio.paleontology,aus.science,aus.education,aus.politics,nz.politics References: <406D1019.45958992@iw.net> Subject: Re: PBS show on Tornadoes and possible help as to how they form Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 13:44:24 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Lines: 140 Message-ID: <406d5226$0$291$7a628cd7@news.club-internet.fr> Organization: Club-Internet / T-Online France NNTP-Posting-Date: 02 Apr 2004 11:44:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.194.234.131 X-Trace: 1080906278 news.club-internet.fr 291 212.194.234.131 X-Complaints-To: abuse@club-internet.fr