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Article #8164Re: Who's 'In Climate Denial, Again'? The New York Times
From: NoMoreCons
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 19:58
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 19:58
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"Surfer" <no@spam.net> wrote in message news:dii9d6h9fnpimu3ps98b2jml9nrro4cspk@4ax.com... > On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:18:57 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@HotMail.com> > wrote: > >>"Surfer" <no@spam.net> wrote in message > >>> The facts I have been quoting are derived from measurements. >>> >>> >> >>Mmmm >> >>Sure they are >> Like some of the weather data that is affected by the urban environment >>around it ? >> Or how about some that that cherry-picked Siberian tree-ring "data' >>That's just naming two >> > Those comments don't apply to the following: > > - Global mean troposphere temperature has an upward trend line > http://pielkeclimatesci.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/0710_graf.jpg?w=500&h=183 > > - Arctic sea ice extent has a downward trend line > http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot_hires.png > > - Antarctic mass has a downward trend line > http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/20100108_Is_Antarctica_Melting.html > > - Global sea level continues to rise > http://sealevel.colorado.edu/current/sl_ib_ns_global.jpg > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Recent_Sea_Level_Rise.png > >> >> There's more of that "high-quality" data, you are referring to. >>And the you have the programs which "massage that data, to get the desired >>conclusions >> >>Oh yeah, all that data and the programs to massage them are really of GREAT >>source of "reliable conclusions". >>Oh wait, they're not conclusions >> They're agenda.. >> Agenda to which the data has been massaged to fit. >> > > The above data is just data. > > > > > >
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