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Article #8165Re: Who's 'In Climate Denial, Again'? The New York Times
From: Surfer
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 03:27
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 03:27
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On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:18:57 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@HotMail.com> wrote: >"Surfer" <no@spam.net> wrote in message >> The facts I have been quoting are derived from measurements. >> >> > >Mmmm > >Sure they are > Like some of the weather data that is affected by the urban environment >around it ? > Or how about some that that cherry-picked Siberian tree-ring "data' >That's just naming two > Those comments don't apply to the following: - Global mean troposphere temperature has an upward trend line http://pielkeclimatesci.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/0710_graf.jpg?w=500&h=183 - Arctic sea ice extent has a downward trend line http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot_hires.png - Antarctic mass has a downward trend line http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/20100108_Is_Antarctica_Melting.html - Global sea level continues to rise http://sealevel.colorado.edu/current/sl_ib_ns_global.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Recent_Sea_Level_Rise.png > > There's more of that "high-quality" data, you are referring to. >And the you have the programs which "massage that data, to get the desired >conclusions > >Oh yeah, all that data and the programs to massage them are really of GREAT >source of "reliable conclusions". >Oh wait, they're not conclusions > They're agenda.. > Agenda to which the data has been massaged to fit. > The above data is just data.
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