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Article #8168Re: Who's 'In Climate Denial, Again'? The New York Times
From: NoMoreCons
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 23:45
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 23:45
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"Oy rool out a carbon tax" <gillard_lies@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:4cd1edc8$0$17526$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > Surfer wrote: >> On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:21:29 +1100, Oy rool out a carbon tax >> <gillard_lies@nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>> Surfer wrote: >>> >>>> However, the claim can also be supported by simply showing that global >>>> mean surface temperature has an upward trend line, in spite of >>>> temporary downward fluctuations. >>> God you warmists make me laugh. If you "simply" expand the timeframe >>> back into the embarrassing centuries, the claim can be equally well >>> *dismissed* by >>> >>> "simply showing that global mean surface temperature has" a pretty flat >>> "trend line, in spite of temporary" upward "fluctuations." >>> >> Well, if after some millions of years nature converts excess CO2 in >> the atmosphere back into fossil fuel, we probably will end up with a >> "pretty flat" trend line as you desire. >> >> In the meantime though the current upward "fluctuation" has an upward >> trend line, meaning that in the coming decades we can expect the >> harmful effects of global warming to become more apparent. > > You don't have to resort to that sort of dramatic playout. Just look > back over, for instance, the last 50 centuries > http://johnstonanalytics.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/5000yrTempLarge.30585056.png > Your "upward trend line" is now revealed as one of many statistical > fluctuations, and a rather unspectacular one at that. Indeed, the > current "peaking" fits quite well with the periodicity established over > the las 50 centuries. There is nothing to suggest it will exceed any of > the previous "highs" nor be any more enduring. Even if it *does* end up > peaking higher, there's nothing to attach any causal significance to it, > nor to imply any negative effects from it. > > Like I've said, try looking at the bigger picture - not just the bit > *they* want you to see, over the last few hundred years. > > -- > Labor-Green open borders plan in action... > > Number of illegal aliens in detention: > > Jan 2005 __________ > Jul 2005 ________ > Jan 2006 _________ > Jul 2006 ______ > Jan 2007 _____ > Jul 2007 ____ > Jan 2008 ____ > Jul 2008 ___ > Jan 2009 ___ Rudd stops TPVs > Jul 2009 __________ > Jan 2010 _________________ > Jul 2010 ______________________________ > > Where to next?
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