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Re: Who's 'In Climate Denial, Again'? The New York Times

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From: NoMoreCons
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 23:45
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"Oy rool out a carbon tax" <gillard_lies@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
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> Surfer wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:21:29 +1100, Oy rool out a carbon tax
>> <gillard_lies@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Surfer wrote:
>>>
>>>> However, the claim can also be supported by simply showing that global
>>>> mean surface temperature has an upward trend line, in spite of
>>>> temporary downward fluctuations.
>>> God you warmists make me laugh. If you "simply" expand the timeframe
>>> back into the embarrassing centuries, the claim can be equally well
>>> *dismissed* by
>>>
>>> "simply showing that global mean surface temperature has" a pretty flat
>>> "trend line, in spite of temporary" upward "fluctuations."
>>>
>> Well, if after some millions of years nature converts excess CO2 in
>> the atmosphere back into fossil fuel, we probably will end up with a
>> "pretty flat" trend line as you desire.
>>
>> In the meantime though the current upward "fluctuation" has an upward
>> trend line, meaning that in the coming decades we can expect the
>> harmful effects of global warming to become more apparent.
>
> You don't have to resort to that sort of dramatic playout. Just look
> back over, for instance, the last 50 centuries
> http://johnstonanalytics.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/5000yrTempLarge.30585056.png
> Your "upward trend line" is now revealed as one of many statistical
> fluctuations, and a rather unspectacular one at that. Indeed, the
> current "peaking" fits quite well with the periodicity established over
> the las 50 centuries. There is nothing to suggest it will exceed any of
> the previous "highs" nor be any more enduring. Even if it *does* end up
> peaking higher, there's nothing to attach any causal significance to it,
> nor to imply any negative effects from it.
>
> Like I've said, try looking at the bigger picture - not just the bit
> *they* want you to see, over the last few hundred years.
>
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