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Article #8170Re: Who's 'In Climate Denial, Again'? The New York Times
From: Oy rool out a carbon tax
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 23:18
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 23:18
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Surfer wrote: > On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:21:29 +1100, Oy rool out a carbon tax > <gillard_lies@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> Surfer wrote: >> >>> However, the claim can also be supported by simply showing that global >>> mean surface temperature has an upward trend line, in spite of >>> temporary downward fluctuations. >> God you warmists make me laugh. If you "simply" expand the timeframe >> back into the embarrassing centuries, the claim can be equally well >> *dismissed* by >> >> "simply showing that global mean surface temperature has" a pretty flat >> "trend line, in spite of temporary" upward "fluctuations." >> > Well, if after some millions of years nature converts excess CO2 in > the atmosphere back into fossil fuel, we probably will end up with a > "pretty flat" trend line as you desire. > > In the meantime though the current upward "fluctuation" has an upward > trend line, meaning that in the coming decades we can expect the > harmful effects of global warming to become more apparent. You don't have to resort to that sort of dramatic playout. Just look back over, for instance, the last 50 centuries http://johnstonanalytics.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/5000yrTempLarge.30585056.png Your "upward trend line" is now revealed as one of many statistical fluctuations, and a rather unspectacular one at that. Indeed, the current "peaking" fits quite well with the periodicity established over the las 50 centuries. There is nothing to suggest it will exceed any of the previous "highs" nor be any more enduring. Even if it *does* end up peaking higher, there's nothing to attach any causal significance to it, nor to imply any negative effects from it. Like I've said, try looking at the bigger picture - not just the bit *they* want you to see, over the last few hundred years. -- Labor-Green open borders plan in action... Number of illegal aliens in detention: Jan 2005 __________ Jul 2005 ________ Jan 2006 _________ Jul 2006 ______ Jan 2007 _____ Jul 2007 ____ Jan 2008 ____ Jul 2008 ___ Jan 2009 ___ Rudd stops TPVs Jul 2009 __________ Jan 2010 _________________ Jul 2010 ______________________________ Where to next?
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