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Re: zero dimensional particles with mass

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From: Chris Wagner
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 00:00
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Yousuf Khan wrote:
> 
> "It" doesn't have mass, *it* _is_ what we now call mass. Just like there is
> a smallest charge of electromagnetism, there will be a smallest charge of
> mass.

Then why does attracting Higgs bosons make a balance tip?  Why does a 
balance tip period?

 
> >My idea on particles being mini black holes
> >still
> >holds water even with the Higgs field.  I admit, its logical and fits
> >some
> >stuff but that don't mean beans.
> 
> Blackholes need to be able to draw more Higgs and other particles towards
> it. To cause a feedback cycle of space curvature. A point particle will
> only attract as many particles of Higgs bosons as it has the god-given
> ability to attract. Once it attracts those Higgs particles, the Higgs
> particles don't combine with it to make an even bigger attractor of Higgs
> bosons.

Not necessarily.  You don't need infinite mass to have a black hole.
My idea was that the particle *is* the distortion.  It will draw x
number
of Higgs bosons and thats it.

> >Yeah, so what.  Using the definition of a black hole as an infinite
> >distortion of the space time continuum rather than a body of x mass,
> >imagine a proton (forget the quarks, role with me) having its gravity
> >well.  That gravity well could be in fact what attracts and keeps the
> >Higgs bosons.  Thereby giving the proton mass and carrying it through
> >time.  What makes the gravity well?  The energy component.  This makes
> >mass seperate from matter and energy, matter being energy anyway.  The
> >Higgs theory doesn't conflict with my idea.
> 
> Yes, but no feedback loop of infinite attraction. The proton will attract
> what it attracts and no more than that.

Thats what I said.  It can still be an infinite distortion in the space
time continuum.
 
> >To recap:  A proton (forget the quarks, role with me) is a conflux of
> >positive electric field potential bound by an infinite distortion of
> >the space time continuum.  The mass of the proton is in fact the energy
> >according to E=mc^2 trapped within the event horizon.  When antiparticle
> >annihilation occurs the E fields cancel out allowing the singularity to
> >evaporate.  The energy is released.
> 
> But it's *not* an infinite distortion of the space-time continuum. It is
> just a distortion, but not an infinite one. For it to be infinite it would
> have to be in the aforementioned feedback loop.

Not if its an infinite distortion of fixed mass.
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From: Chris Wagner <wagnerc@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
Subject: Re: zero dimensional particles with mass
Date: 1997/04/10
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