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Article #8309Re: A non-tachyon, still-follows-Einsten's-rules FTL idea ... PLEASE comment on it!!!
From: meron
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:00
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In article <33403FAB.7862@eos.ncsu.edu>, James Grady Ward <jgward@eos.ncsu.edu> writes: >meron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: >> >> In article <333F75B4.78BC@ozemail.com.au>, Chris Muffett <cmuffett@ozemail.com.au> writes: >> > >> > Now the photon and the 3 neutrinos have markedly different >> >properties. Photons have an intrinsic spin of 1, which means they behave >> >as bosons. Neutrinos have spin of 1/2, meaning they are fermions, >> >although they interact very weakly with other particles. This is why >> >they can disobey the speed limit of light. >> > >> They don't disobey any limit. Where did you take this from? > >i think he is refering to their always traveling at c( or real close >to it), ignoring the change of light speed for different mediums >such as solid objects. I believe that this is what he refers to, but there are two errors involved in this, namely: 1) The only speed limit in physics is c, the speed of light in vacuum. There is no different limit imposed in a medium. 2) This is more important. The term "speed of light in medium" which, unfortunately, physicists did a lot to popularize, is meaningless. There ain't such thing, period. You can refer to the speed of EM radiation of specific frequency in a medium, but the value thus obtained is not a constant but a function of frequency (wavelength, if you prefer). You'll get different values for radiowaves, visible light, X-rays, gammas etc. And, what is the limit of all these values. It is c, same c mentioned above. Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool, meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fc19f,170da24f95ceef31 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc19f,public X-Google-Thread: 10be1b,14c8003ac88779d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid10be1b,public X-Google-Thread: 101d03,14c8003ac88779d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid101d03,public X-Google-Thread: 10e8c9,14c8003ac88779d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e8c9,public X-Google-Thread: 107319,14c8003ac88779d4 X-Google-Attributes: gid107319,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,559b8de9eb7ab374 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: 107568,170da24f95ceef31 X-Google-Attributes: gid107568,public X-Google-Thread: 10dd53,c2d61fdc569fd85e X-Google-Attributes: gid10dd53,public From: meron@cars3.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: A non-tachyon, still-follows-Einsten's-rules FTL idea ... PLEASE comment on it!!! Date: 1997/03/31 Message-ID: <E7xML3.L0r@midway.uchicago.edu> X-Deja-AN: 229751490 Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: cars3.uchicago.edu References: <5d2m8a$ncn@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> <332BD9F9.5E4C@ucunix.san.uc.edu> <5gi4ta$7mg1@chinook.generation.net> <332CD474.A96@ucunix.san.uc.edu> <332DAC44.6318@hotmail.com> <5gnvii$t00$4@news1.sympatico.ca> <332F8EA9.336F@flash.net> <5gsv2t$3qv@news.inforamp.net> <3332d06f.1493960@news.euro.net> <Pine.GSO.3.95.970321163813.18908F-100000@cougar> <jVeRYAAyGENzEwZi@yendor.demon.co.uk> <33391071.4FEE@ozemail.com.au> <333918AB.3B8B@eos.ncsu.edu> <333F1D79.471F@ucunix.san.uc.edu> <E7x7z2.912 Organization: CARS, U. of Chicago, Chicago IL 60637 Reply-To: meron@cars3.uchicago.edu Newsgroups: sci.physics,rec.arts.startrek.tech,alt.startrek,alt.startrek.borg,aus.sf.star-trek,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.voyager,alt.tv.star-trek.ds9