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Article #8436Re: the computational neurophysics of perception
From: robert bristow-johnson
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:46
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:46
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in article 1130625124.508354.259710@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, maestro@ultrapiano.com at StpNrrs@aol.com wrote on 10/29/2005 18:32: > Newsgroups: > rec.music.makers.piano,rec.music.makers.synth,rec.music.compose,alt.music,alt. > sci.physics.acoustics > Subject: Re: how your ears work > Date: 25 Oct 2005 18:38:23 -0700 > > p...@aol.com wrote: > so what 'is' a sound? > > maes...@ultrapiano.com wrote: >> Inside the cochlea of a human ear are hundreds of thin cilia. Rather >> like an insect's eye, which is made up of hundreds of very primitive >> eyes, each cilium responds individually to the pressure variations in >> the cochlear fluid caused by sounds, contributing its own primitive >> interpretation of the sound to the overall picture. Each cilium >> responds to pressure by firing a synapse and sending a bio-electrical >> signal along the aural nerve into the inner brain, the journey taking >> about a 25th of a second. While a 25th of a second's worth of pressure >> variation information is on the aural nerve's extensions into the brain, >> the brain attempts to match its auditory memory with features in the >> pressure variation information. Neural pathways into the brain's >> memory of pressure variation patterns are strengthened during this >> process, resulting in the brain deciding on what the sound 'is'. > > > From the brain's point of view a sound 'is' approaching from the left, > for example, or a sound 'is' running water, or 'is' frightening, or > pleasant. The brain can detect such qualities without thought, because > of automatic biologically evolved processes occuring within it, such as > comparison of remembered pressure variation patterns with those in the > sound. > > Sound can be described mathematically as consisting of sinewaves at > different frequencies and amplitudes, or as the numbers in a .wav or > .mp3 file, but the information on the aural nerve is none of these. > Each cilia fires when sufficient pressure above the ambient has been > applied, and then takes about a 10th of a second to recover so that it > is ready to fire again (by which time the internal pressure in the > cochlea will usually have decreased to below the ambient for a short > while). Some cilia are less responsive than others and take more time > to recover, but each cilium individually behaves like a very primitive > ear, which becomes dormant for a short while whenever it has been > squashed by the pressure in the ear sufficiently for its synapse to > fire. > > The hundreds of cilia individually send their primitive information > along the aural nerve to the inner brain, and the brain can interpret > the total of the sound information corresponding to a 25th of a second > while it is on the aural nerve. A loud sudden sound would probably > cause a lot of cilia to fire simultaneously, along with low-level > echoes, and the brain can detect that pattern of information as it > travels along the nerve fibres. High frequency sound might result in > the frequent occurrence of large numbers of cilia firing in a short > period of time, corresponding to a short length of the aural nerve on > which the pattern is occurring. > > The often-repeated belief (sometimes called the travelling wave theory) > that the ear itself hears sound mechanically (rather than the brain > doing the hearing and deciding on what a sound 'is'), with each cilium > tuned by nature to respond to a specific sinewave frequency, and > vibrating sympathetically to 'sound waves' of that frequency because of > resonance effects in the cochlear fluid, and the basilar membrane > detecting the strength of the vibration (rather like the base of a > cat's whisker) to give the amplitude of a frequency, is basically quite > ridiculous and should be abandoned. i hadn't read through all this (and not guaranteeing that i will) but a *very* interesting paper presented by a guy how designs signal processing chips, some doing specific noise-shaping processing, was presented at IEEE Mohonk 1997: http://www.icsi.berkeley.edu/~dpwe/waspaa97/program.html it was Bob Adams (AD1890, ADI "sigma DSP", etc) "Spectral noise-shaping in integrate-and-fire neural networks". he also presented it the earlier EAS convention in LA. i saw both and thought it was a compelling theory. anybody know an on-line source for the paper? -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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