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In article <5knbbn$m2v@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, jgardner@ringer.cs.utsa.edu says...
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>: Enough time, in fact, for a bear population to become a whale population. 
>: Here's the evidence, which I'm sure any reputable geneticist would agree
>: is entirely possible and believable.  Creationists that refuse to believe
>: the fact of evolution, wake up!!!!!  Evolution is real, and can happen as
>: described in the following remark.  Believe it!!!!!!! 
>
>: "In North America the black bear was seen by Hearne swimming for hours
>: with widely open mouth, thus catching, like a whale, insects in the water.
>: Even in so extreme a case as this, if the supply of insects were constant,
>: and if better adapted competitors did not already exist in the country, I
>: can see no difficulty in a race of bears being rendered, by natural
>: selection, more and more aquatic in their structure and habits, with
>: larger and larger mouths, till a creature was produced as monstrous as a
>: whale."-_On the Origin of Species_ (1859), original edition, pg. 184. 
>
>        So I suppose that legs and feet ceased to be useful to the
>animal and he stopped using them.  Maybe.  Now front paws also 
>proved of no use to the animal and he stopped using them too.  Meanwhile
>his two nostrils turned to one and migrated to the top of his head.
>All the while providing advantage along with maintaining viability
>of the bear? 


By Jove, I think he's got it!!!!! The details were probably somewhat different, 
but in gereral terms, yes, that's what happens. 

small changes add up. lot's of small changes add up to big changes over time.  
That is the process of evolution.  The fossil record of the whales supports 
this very well.  As I said in my earlier post, the evidence from the 
Cosmologists, and the Geologists give great evidential support to there having 
been enough time for the process of evolution to have occured.

Now you can believe it you wish, that the evidence is false, and that the earth 
is 10,000 years old, but then you have the theological problems that have to be 
resolved  with holding that view.  






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