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Article #8547Re: evolution?(please read)
From: David Iain Greig
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 00:00
Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 00:00
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On Fri, 02 May 1997 20:07:17 -0700, pparso39@swbell.net <pparso39@swbell.net> wrote: >john baez wrote: >> >> In article <3369749D.3D21@midusa.net>, T. Haug <tjhaug@midusa.net> wrote: >> >John: >> >How do you define equilibrium? >> >> In physics (and I'm posting from sci.physics), "equilibrium" is >> a condition in which a physical system remains in the same state >> as time passes. According to this definition a sleeping dog is >> not in equilibrium, because while it might look static to the casual >> observer, it is actually breathing, metabolizing, pumping out heat >> into the environment, and so on, and eventually it will wake up >> and walk off. By this definition, living systems are never in >> equilibrium; you only reach equilibrium when you die and completely >> decompose. > > No. Equillibrium is a dynamic state. For example, we take in air, >water, and nutrients, which become components of our bodies, which >give off waste products. That is equillibrium. The body stays the >same, more or less, but the actual materials move through the system. Erm, this sounds more like 'steady-state'. I am *NOT* at equilibrium with my environment. I'm losing heat constantly. Life is seriously non-equilibrium, sort of a concentration of order maintained by using food and oxygen. Equilibrium == dead. --D. (IANAP, IAAChemEng) -- ---- David Iain Greig Information Services Hospital for Sick Children, 555 University Ave., Toronto, Ont. M5G 1X8 greig@sickkids.on.ca (416) 813-5390 "Arbor plena allouatarum"
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106bde,e5a72eede1eb5b86 X-Google-Attributes: gid106bde,public X-Google-Thread: 10a7a9,e5a72eede1eb5b86 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a7a9,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,e5a72eede1eb5b86 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: 10b363,e5a72eede1eb5b86 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b363,public From: greig@sickkids.on.ca (David Iain Greig) Subject: Re: evolution?(please read) Date: 1997/05/03 Message-ID: <slrn5mmcd1.15u.greig@inside.sickkids.on.ca> X-Deja-AN: 239133263 References: <862304355.15801@dejanews.com> <bgrafspty2.fsf@janus.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me> <5k8kbo$qb@charity.ucr.edu> <3369749D.3D21@midusa.net> <5kdbv8$cvi@charity.ucr.edu> <336AABE5.7A7C@swbell.net> Organization: NMR Core Facility, Dept. of Biochemistry, University of Ediacara Reply-To: greig@sickkids.on.ca Newsgroups: sci.physics,talk.origins,bionet.biophysics,bionet.molbio.evolution