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Article #8571Re: Hammond's Law of Auxology
From: Dave Knorr
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 22:17
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 22:17
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Matt, I'm afraid your phenotype may have exceeded your genome! I indeed meant to reply in public to GH, but hit the wrong button. I agree with others who have posted on this discussion that Hammond's assertions are confusing at best. In trying to understand the importance he attaches to the "auxology", which I translate to mean "an organism can grow no larger than it can", he provides some incite in his reply to me: <start GH quote> As far as the question of "how does this Law prove God exists"... that is a SEPARATE ISSUE, properly discussed on a philosophy or Theology newsgroup. But, parenthetically, let me explain that it is not complicated. To wit, if there is a growth curve deficit as I have argued, then it obviously must exist for every organ in the body including the human BRAIN. Obviously according to this 15 or 20% of the human brain is actually only "PARTIALLY GROWN" in the average human being. The theory argues (and proves BTW) that the average human being only sees "80% of reality" because of this, and, not incredibly, refers to the other 20$ as "God". See my website for further details. </end GH quote> I have a problem with the notion that an organism with a stunted body also has stunted brain size (_not the same as brain development_) and is somehow less-able to view reality than another organism. There's too many assumptions being made. Also, it's unclear how a plant with smaller leaves is different than its genetically identical twin with slightly larger leaves. It says nothing about the nature of the size difference. Does etiolation account for the differences? Also, its been demonstrated that the nuclei of different cells in a single leaf may be 1X or 3X, or show other gross alterations from diploid...what does that say about the genomes of identical plants when measuring something as non-specific as "growth"? Merry Xmas, Dave Knorr
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