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Re: Hammond's Law of Auxology

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From: William Engell
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 00:37
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God, Hammond, what a boob you are.  You couldn't whiz into the same bucket
with Einstein.
George Hammond wrote in message <3A442BDC.5F0825EB@mediaone.net>...
>Dave Knorr wrote:
>
>& I agree with others who have posted on this discussion that Hammond's
>& assertions are confusing at best.
>
>GH:  So is Einstein's Theory to people who properly belong
>     in the skilled trades.
>
>
>
>& In trying to understand the importance he
>& attaches to the "auxology", which I translate to mean "an organism can
>grow
>& no larger than it can", he provides some incite [sic, insight]
>& in his reply to me:
>&
>
>GH:
>  "an organism can grow no larger than it can"
>Yes... that is a correct statement of the relation of the
>phenotype to the genotype.  It accounts for all sigmoidal
>curves of growth.
>
>
>
>& <start GH quote&
>& As far as the question of "how does this Law prove God
>& exists"... that is a SEPARATE ISSUE, properly discussed on
>& a philosophy or Theology newsgroup.  But, parenthetically,
>& let me explain that it is not complicated.  To wit, if
>& there is a growth curve deficit as I have argued, then it
>& obviously must exist for every organ in the body including
>& the human BRAIN.  Obviously according to this 15 or 20%
>& of the human brain is actually only "PARTIALLY GROWN" in
>& the average human being.  The theory argues (and proves BTW)
>& that the average human being only sees "80% of reality"
>& because of this, and, not incredibly, refers to the other
>& 20$ as "God".  See my website for further details.
>& </end GH quote&
>&
>& I have a problem with the notion that an organism with a stunted body
also
>& has stunted brain size
>
>
>GH:  This is a proven fact, not an argument. Beyond that
>     it's it's intui9tively obvious to even an
>     uneducated observer, where it's known as
>     "uniform first order allometry".
>
>&(_not the same as brain development_) and is somehow
>& less-able to view reality than another organism.
>
>GH:  This is also a proven fact (e.g. mental Retardation)
>     and not an argument.
>
>&  There's too many
>& assumptions being made.
>
>
>
>
>GH:
>  Those who are ignorant of the facts like to call them
>assumptions.
> I appreciate your problems, but they are only the usual
>mundane problems of education.
>
>
>
>
>&  Also, it's unclear how a plant with smaller leaves
>& is different than its genetically identical twin with slightly larger
>& leaves.
>
>GH:
>It's called a "growth curve deficit"
>
>
>
>& Dave Knorr
>
>GH:  Happy Newyear to you too.
>
>
>--
>BE SURE TO VISIT MY WEBSITE, BELOW:
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>George Hammond, M.S. Physics
>Email:    ghammond@mediaone.net
>Website:  http://people.ne.mediaone.net/ghammond/index.html
>-----------------------------------------------------------
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From: "William Engell" <wengell@erie.net>
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Subject: Re: Hammond's Law of Auxology
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