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Article #8710Re: Quantum effects in the brain
From: Kenneth 'pawl' Collins
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:51
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:51
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Does Penrose still hold that view? There's nothing 'quantum' required. It's all just macroscopic TD E.I-minimization. K. P. Collins Todd A. Anderson wrote in message ... |In "The Emperor's New Mind", Roger Penrose argues that parts of the |brain exist simultaneously in multiple states due to quantum effects but |that once the maximum difference between any two of these states |reaches a certain threshold the wave function collapses. I always thought |the need for conscious to collapse the wave function was silly. | |Todd | |"UKComplaint" <ukcomplaint@lycos.com> wrote in message |news:67ab52c2.0301071558.7e44fc36@posting.google.com... |> Physicist Henry Margenau (quoted by Sir John Eccles) states that the |> components of the brain 'are small enough to be governed by |> probabilistic quantum laws' and are 'always poised for a multitude of |> possible changes, each with a definite probability'. |> |> Is Margenau's view (that actions in the brain might be subject to |> quantum effects) generally accepted withnin science? |> |> N.B. The blurb for the forthcoming Quantum Mind 2003 Conference on |> Consciousness, Quantum Physics and the Brain to be hosted by the |> University of Arizona states "recent experimental evidence suggests |> quantum nonlocality occurring in conscious and subconscious brain |> function, and functional quantum processes in molecular biology are |> becoming more and more apparent." | |
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1045ed,1779a484ccbb071c X-Google-Attributes: gid1045ed,public X-Google-Thread: 10b271,1779a484ccbb071c X-Google-Attributes: gid10b271,public X-Google-Thread: 111f18,1779a484ccbb071c X-Google-Attributes: gid111f18,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-09 14:51:56 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Kenneth 'pawl' Collins" <k.p.collins@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: sci.physics,bionet.neuroscience,alt.consciousness References: <67ab52c2.0301071558.7e44fc36@posting.google.com> <avihgb$i2f$1@news01.intel.com> Subject: Re: Quantum effects in the brain Lines: 42 Organization: sufficient X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: <f2nT9.103257$hK4.8387369@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:51:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.90.189.196 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1042152715 12.90.189.196 (Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:51:55 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:51:55 GMT