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Article #8895Re: The Mann and the Hockey Stick
From: Billy
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 04:57
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In article <Y8ednQjhR_VcfOHSnZ2dnUVZ_qgAAAAA@giganews.com>, RLW <rlwatkins@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:05:30 -0700, Chom Noamsky wrote: > > > On 3/31/2012 7:27 PM, RLW wrote: > >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:18:28 -0400, Leonard wrote: > >> > >>> Abracadabra, No More Mediรฆval Warm Period! > >>> > >>> The lies behind the failed Hockey Stick > >> > >> <yada, yada, yada> > >> > >> I'm starting to get the impression that few posting here actually know > >> what the "hockey stick" graph was intended to represent: runaway, > >> nearly limitless increase in surface temperature. > >> > >> A) We know that's wrong. > >> > >> B) We know that the troposphere is getting warmer. > >> > >> (A) does nothing to disprove (B). Indeed, (B) is something *observed*, > >> not a matter open to debate. > >> > >> (B) means that a lot of weather patterns will change and a lot of ice > >> will melt. This doesn't mean Humanity will die off, but it will be > >> very damn' expensive and inconvenient for a good many folks. > >> > >> I'll hate having to explain to my grandkids that everyone stood around > >> debating whether it was happening instead of figuring out what impact > >> it will have and how to solve some of the attendant problems. > > > > The assumption is it that warming will be all bad. How many studies > > have been done on the potential benefits of global warming? What it > > comes down to is the cost of adaption versus the cost of correction. > > That's assuming it can be corrected, and in the view of a substantial > > portion of the scientific community the results would be modest or > > negligible at best. > > > > The big problem is elements of the political sphere have been trying > > their best to hook irrelevant agendas to climate change, and to exploit > > it as a tool to push things that wouldn't get backing otherwise. Get > > people alarmed, induce feelings of insecurity, then they'll be less > > resistant when it comes to unpopular causes that have little or nothing > > to do with climate change. > > > > It's interesting that the Darrell Kaufman study showed climate has been > > experiencing a long term cooling trend, starting about 2,000 years ago, > > and was projected to go on another 4,000 years. Is it possible we're > > actually better off with a little warming? Quite possibly we've averted > > a future LIA... > > I'm not even assuming that the effects will be all bad. The first > benefits which come to mind are to shipping and farmers in Canada. Still, > any sort of large-scale reorganization of society is costly, so we'd best > be puzzling out the details now, before it becomes an immediate problem. Oh, the sweet security of innocence. <http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=hit-them-with-the-hocke y> -- E Pluribus Unum Know where your money is tonight? It's making the lives of Wall Street Bankers more comfortable. The GOP is chasing us towards a cliff called "Obama." Vote 3rd Party
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From: Billy <wildbilly@withoutta.net>
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Subject: Re: The Mann and the Hockey Stick
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