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Article #8897Re: The Mann and the Hockey Stick
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Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:45
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:45
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"Billy" <wildbilly@withoutta.net> wrote in message news:wildbilly-5076EA.21573204042012@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au... > In article <Y8ednQjhR_VcfOHSnZ2dnUVZ_qgAAAAA@giganews.com>, > RLW <rlwatkins@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 15:05:30 -0700, Chom Noamsky wrote: >> >> > On 3/31/2012 7:27 PM, RLW wrote: >> >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:18:28 -0400, Leonard wrote: >> >> >> >>> Abracadabra, No More Mediรฆval Warm Period! >> >>> >> >>> The lies behind the failed Hockey Stick >> >> >> >> <yada, yada, yada> >> >> >> >> I'm starting to get the impression that few posting here actually know >> >> what the "hockey stick" graph was intended to represent: runaway, >> >> nearly limitless increase in surface temperature. >> >> >> >> A) We know that's wrong. >> >> >> >> B) We know that the troposphere is getting warmer. >> >> >> >> (A) does nothing to disprove (B). Indeed, (B) is something *observed*, >> >> not a matter open to debate. >> >> >> >> (B) means that a lot of weather patterns will change and a lot of ice >> >> will melt. This doesn't mean Humanity will die off, but it will be >> >> very damn' expensive and inconvenient for a good many folks. >> >> >> >> I'll hate having to explain to my grandkids that everyone stood around >> >> debating whether it was happening instead of figuring out what impact >> >> it will have and how to solve some of the attendant problems. >> > >> > The assumption is it that warming will be all bad. How many studies >> > have been done on the potential benefits of global warming? What it >> > comes down to is the cost of adaption versus the cost of correction. >> > That's assuming it can be corrected, and in the view of a substantial >> > portion of the scientific community the results would be modest or >> > negligible at best. >> > >> > The big problem is elements of the political sphere have been trying >> > their best to hook irrelevant agendas to climate change, and to exploit >> > it as a tool to push things that wouldn't get backing otherwise. Get >> > people alarmed, induce feelings of insecurity, then they'll be less >> > resistant when it comes to unpopular causes that have little or nothing >> > to do with climate change. >> > >> > It's interesting that the Darrell Kaufman study showed climate has been >> > experiencing a long term cooling trend, starting about 2,000 years ago, >> > and was projected to go on another 4,000 years. Is it possible we're >> > actually better off with a little warming? Quite possibly we've averted >> > a future LIA... >> >> I'm not even assuming that the effects will be all bad. The first >> benefits which come to mind are to shipping and farmers in Canada. Still, >> any sort of large-scale reorganization of society is costly, so we'd best >> be puzzling out the details now, before it becomes an immediate problem. > > Oh, the sweet security of innocence. > <http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=hit-them-with-the-hocke > y> > > -- > E Pluribus Unum > > Know where your money is tonight? > It's making the lives of Wall Street Bankers more comfortable. > > > The GOP is chasing us towards a cliff called "Obama." > Vote 3rd Party
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