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Article #8898Re: The Mann and the Hockey Stick
From: NDP
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:45
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:45
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"Billy" <wildbilly@withoutta.net> wrote in message news:wildbilly-7C6A0A.21505204042012@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au... > In article <jlajfb$ori$1@dont-email.me>, > Chom Noamsky <beaver@stew.tasty> wrote: > >> On 3/31/2012 7:27 PM, RLW wrote: >> > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:18:28 -0400, Leonard wrote: >> > >> >> Abracadabra, No More Mediรฆval Warm Period! >> >> >> >> The lies behind the failed Hockey Stick >> > >> > <yada, yada, yada> >> > >> > I'm starting to get the impression that few posting here actually know >> > what the "hockey stick" graph was intended to represent: runaway, nearly >> > limitless increase in surface temperature. >> > >> > A) We know that's wrong. >> > >> > B) We know that the troposphere is getting warmer. >> > >> > (A) does nothing to disprove (B). Indeed, (B) is something *observed*, >> > not a matter open to debate. >> > >> > (B) means that a lot of weather patterns will change and a lot of ice will >> > melt. This doesn't mean Humanity will die off, but it will be very damn' >> > expensive and inconvenient for a good many folks. >> > >> > I'll hate having to explain to my grandkids that everyone stood around >> > debating whether it was happening instead of figuring out what impact it >> > will have and how to solve some of the attendant problems. >> >> The assumption is it that warming will be all bad. How many studies >> have been done on the potential benefits of global warming? What it >> comes down to is the cost of adaption versus the cost of correction. >> That's assuming it can be corrected, and in the view of a substantial >> portion of the scientific community the results would be modest or >> negligible at best. >> >> The big problem is elements of the political sphere have been trying >> their best to hook irrelevant agendas to climate change, and to exploit >> it as a tool to push things that wouldn't get backing otherwise. Get >> people alarmed, induce feelings of insecurity, then they'll be less >> resistant when it comes to unpopular causes that have little or nothing >> to do with climate change. >> >> It's interesting that the Darrell Kaufman study showed climate has been >> experiencing a long term cooling trend, starting about 2,000 years ago, >> and was projected to go on another 4,000 years. Is it possible we're >> actually better off with a little warming? Quite possibly we've averted >> a future LIA... > > We aren't talking about turning down the AC, because the AC will be > airborne along with the semis and the containers that they were pulling. > The warmer the oceans, the more water vapor is in the air. When that > water vapor turns back to liquid water, it releases a lot of energy. > Energy that drives storms like hurricanes, or tornadoes. The warmer it > is the more water vapor there is, the more water vapor there is the > bigger the storms. Capice? > > -- > E Pluribus Unum > > Know where your money is tonight? > It's making the lives of Wall Street Bankers more comfortable. > > > The GOP is chasing us towards a cliff called "Obama." > Vote 3rd Party
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