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Article #8906Re: The Mann and the Hockey Stick
From: Jonesie
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 00:40
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 00:40
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On Apr 5, 2:54 pm, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPeI...@HotMail.com> wrote: > "Billy" <wildbi...@withoutta.net> wrote in message > > news:wildbilly-7C6A0A.21505204042012@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au... > > > > > > > > > > > In article <jlajfb$or...@dont-email.me>, > > Chom Noamsky <bea...@stew.tasty> wrote: > > >> On 3/31/2012 7:27 PM, RLW wrote: > >> > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:18:28 -0400, Leonard wrote: > > >> >> Abracadabra, No More Mediæval Warm Period! > > >> >> The lies behind the failed Hockey Stick > > >> > <yada, yada, yada> > > >> > I'm starting to get the impression that few posting here actually know > >> > what the "hockey stick" graph was intended to represent: runaway, > >> > nearly > >> > limitless increase in surface temperature. > > >> > A) We know that's wrong. > > >> > B) We know that the troposphere is getting warmer. > > >> > (A) does nothing to disprove (B). Indeed, (B) is something *observed*, > >> > not a matter open to debate. > > >> > (B) means that a lot of weather patterns will change and a lot of ice > >> > will > >> > melt. This doesn't mean Humanity will die off, but it will be very > >> > damn' > >> > expensive and inconvenient for a good many folks. > > >> > I'll hate having to explain to my grandkids that everyone stood around > >> > debating whether it was happening instead of figuring out what impact > >> > it > >> > will have and how to solve some of the attendant problems. > > >> The assumption is it that warming will be all bad. How many studies > >> have been done on the potential benefits of global warming? What it > >> comes down to is the cost of adaption versus the cost of correction. > >> That's assuming it can be corrected, and in the view of a substantial > >> portion of the scientific community the results would be modest or > >> negligible at best. > > >> The big problem is elements of the political sphere have been trying > >> their best to hook irrelevant agendas to climate change, and to exploit > >> it as a tool to push things that wouldn't get backing otherwise. Get > >> people alarmed, induce feelings of insecurity, then they'll be less > >> resistant when it comes to unpopular causes that have little or nothing > >> to do with climate change. > > >> It's interesting that the Darrell Kaufman study showed climate has been > >> experiencing a long term cooling trend, starting about 2,000 years ago, > >> and was projected to go on another 4,000 years. Is it possible we're > >> actually better off with a little warming? Quite possibly we've averted > >> a future LIA... > > > We aren't talking about turning down the AC, because the AC will be > > airborne along with the semis and the containers that they were pulling. > > LOL > Climate change will change gravity as well ?? > <snicker> > You do have a rich fantasy about what AGW means. > No wonder you're so easily sold on this scam. > > > The warmer the oceans, the more water vapor is in the air. When that > > water vapor turns back to liquid water, it releases a lot of energy. > > Energy that drives storms like hurricanes, or tornadoes. The warmer it > > is the more water vapor there is, the more water vapor there is the > > bigger the storms. Capice? > > At least that's the SIMPLE model for the SIMPLETONS > Too bad for you that the model is a bit more complex than that and there > other factors that come in play. Are you implying that your posts here have failed to prove that you are not a SIMPLETON, but instead some kind of sophisticated "book learnin" dude? Hilarious! http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/abuses_of_science/va-ag-timeline.html
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From: Jonesie <caseyterry5959@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: The Mann and the Hockey Stick
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