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Re: There is no "pull" of gravity, only the PUSH of flowing ether!

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From: John Murphy
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 07:20
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On 15 May, 07:05, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 14, 8:45 pm, Timo Nieminen <t...@physics.uq.edu.au> wrote:
> > On May 15, 11:14 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > On May 14, 7:46 am, Timo Nieminen <t...@physics.uq.edu.au> wrote:
>
> > > > For example, double the absolute temperature of the balls; easy to do,
> > > > just heat to about 330C. 16 times the radiated power, at double the
> > > > peak frequency, as compared with a room temperature ball. How much
> > > > larger should the gravitational force be?
>
> > > Send me a drawing of the relative size, weight and spacing of the
> > > balls.  I can approximate the gravity, especially, if I know how close
> > > the big ball is to the closest one on the beam.  There will be a more
> > > pronounced gravity effect if the balls are fairly close together—like
> > > six inches.
>
> > No, I'm not asking what should the result be in a particular Cavendish
> > apparatus. I'm asking about the gravitational force between two balls,
> > and how large your predicted temperature dependence is supposed to be.
>
> > You say:
>
> > > Once you get that, THEN you can
> > > start doing the higher math to figure the likely increase in gravity.
>
> > but this is what needs to come _first_. It is very useful to have some
> > idea of how large some effect you're planning to measure is. If
> > somebody asks you to help measure the length of something
> > (accurately), you want to know whether to bring along a long tape
> > measure, a metre ruler, vernier calipers, a micrometer, or something
> > else.
>
> > How large is your predicted effect? Given this, one can see if
> > existing apparatus is sufficient, or if not, what apparatus is needed.
>
> > > Air turbulence will be the limiting factor for… “how
> > > close”.
>
> > It is possible to do experiments in vacuum. Is it necessary to do the
> > experiment in vacuum? Thus the question, how large is the effect
> > supposed to be?
>
> > > Also, tell me the metal type you
> > > are using, and how hot you can safely heat the entire ball.  Is 330C
> > > the highest you can go?
>
> > Of course 330C isn't the hottest possible. 330C is double room
> > temperature, convenient for giving a quantitative prediction (16 times
> > radiated power, at 2 times the peak frequency).
>
> > If the experiment should yield a large enough effect at 330C (or even
> > lower), then it might well be better to do it at a lower temperature.
> > Less convection, etc. How large should the effect be at 330C? This is
> > very useful information in order to determine the best temperature to
> > try the experiment at.
>
> > Why should it take "higher math" to give a quantitative result? What
> > higher math? Of course, since you yourself have spoken many times of
> > your superior math skills, it shouldn't be a significant obstacle to
> > you even if "higher math" is required. Even with only a fraction of
> > your ability, it should be possible to do this easily enough, surely
> > in less than an hour. So why not just say how large the effect is
> > supposed to be?
>
> How does the aether push speed up in increasing strength of gravity?
>
> Mitch Raemsch

The aether is a medium that will accommodate any postualte that suits
it!

--
Harbinger.
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From: John Murphy <london.accommodation.homestays@googlemail.com>
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Subject: Re: There is no "pull" of gravity, only the PUSH of flowing ether!
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