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Re: There is no "pull" of gravity, only the PUSH of flowing ether!

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From: BURT
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 08:15
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On May 15, 12:20 am, John Murphy
<london.accommodation.homest...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 15 May, 07:05, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On May 14, 8:45 pm, Timo Nieminen <t...@physics.uq.edu.au> wrote:
> > > On May 15, 11:14 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > > On May 14, 7:46 am, Timo Nieminen <t...@physics.uq.edu.au> wrote:
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> > > > > For example, double the absolute temperature of the balls; easy to do,
> > > > > just heat to about 330C. 16 times the radiated power, at double the
> > > > > peak frequency, as compared with a room temperature ball. How much
> > > > > larger should the gravitational force be?
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> > > > Send me a drawing of the relative size, weight and spacing of the
> > > > balls.  I can approximate the gravity, especially, if I know how close
> > > > the big ball is to the closest one on the beam.  There will be a more
> > > > pronounced gravity effect if the balls are fairly close together—like
> > > > six inches.
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> > > No, I'm not asking what should the result be in a particular Cavendish
> > > apparatus. I'm asking about the gravitational force between two balls,
> > > and how large your predicted temperature dependence is supposed to be.
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> > > You say:
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> > > > Once you get that, THEN you can
> > > > start doing the higher math to figure the likely increase in gravity.
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> > > but this is what needs to come _first_. It is very useful to have some
> > > idea of how large some effect you're planning to measure is. If
> > > somebody asks you to help measure the length of something
> > > (accurately), you want to know whether to bring along a long tape
> > > measure, a metre ruler, vernier calipers, a micrometer, or something
> > > else.
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> > > How large is your predicted effect? Given this, one can see if
> > > existing apparatus is sufficient, or if not, what apparatus is needed.
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> > > > Air turbulence will be the limiting factor for… “how
> > > > close”.
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> > > It is possible to do experiments in vacuum. Is it necessary to do the
> > > experiment in vacuum? Thus the question, how large is the effect
> > > supposed to be?
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> > > > Also, tell me the metal type you
> > > > are using, and how hot you can safely heat the entire ball.  Is 330C
> > > > the highest you can go?
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> > > Of course 330C isn't the hottest possible. 330C is double room
> > > temperature, convenient for giving a quantitative prediction (16 times
> > > radiated power, at 2 times the peak frequency).
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> > > If the experiment should yield a large enough effect at 330C (or even
> > > lower), then it might well be better to do it at a lower temperature.
> > > Less convection, etc. How large should the effect be at 330C? This is
> > > very useful information in order to determine the best temperature to
> > > try the experiment at.
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> > > Why should it take "higher math" to give a quantitative result? What
> > > higher math? Of course, since you yourself have spoken many times of
> > > your superior math skills, it shouldn't be a significant obstacle to
> > > you even if "higher math" is required. Even with only a fraction of
> > > your ability, it should be possible to do this easily enough, surely
> > > in less than an hour. So why not just say how large the effect is
> > > supposed to be?
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> > How does the aether push speed up in increasing strength of gravity?
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> > Mitch Raemsch
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> The aether is a medium that will accommodate any postualte that suits
> it!
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> --
> Harbinger.- Hide quoted text -
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In that case it is blank slate like string dimensions are.

Mitch Raemsch
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Subject: Re: There is no "pull" of gravity, only the PUSH of flowing ether!
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