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rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 17, 12:55 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Jul 15, 11:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 14, 11:23 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 5:12�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:44f19f98-4d96-4419-a87a-d6bdbd73f31b@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has
>>>>>>>>>>> to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry
>>>>>>>>>>> Potter.
>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. Since we know therefore that harry potter isn't true, the fact
>>>>>>>>>> of hezekiahs tunnel means the bible is obviously false. Since we have
>>>>>>>>>> true facts referred to in works of complete fiction.
>>>>>>>>>> By your reasoning at least.
>>>>>>>>> Well, you have it exactly as atheists have been telling me it is.
>>>>>>>>> Don't ask me what it is supposed to mean.
>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>> Here is an example of rbwinn's logic.
>>>>>>>> Sheep are mentioned in the bible
>>>>>>>> Sheep exist today
>>>>>>>> The bible is accurate and there is a God
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>> Well, no, Steve O.  Here is an example.  Atheists were claiming that
>>>>>>> nothing existed on earth today that could prove anything in the
>>>>>>> Bible.
>>>>>> And yet you've been unable to produce these mythical posts. Well, you do
>>>>>> seem to like myths...
>>>>>>>  So I said, What about Hezekiah's tunnel?  These atheists had
>>>>>>> never heard of Hezekiah's tunnel.  So after they looked it up, they
>>>>>>> said, The fact that a tunnel exists no more proves the Bible to be
>>>>>>> true than Harry Potter leaving from the train station in London to go
>>>>>>> to wizard's school.
>>>>>> In a slightly mangled sense, yes that was me. I'd never heard of
>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel. Now I have. I still can't see how it supports the
>>>>>> existence of any gods. Assuming it's the same tunnel (which hasn't been
>>>>>> established AFAIK), so what? People sometimes write things about stuff.
>>>>>> Does that automatically render it true?
>>>>>>>    I really believe that it certainly does prove certain verses in the
>>>>>>> Old Testament to be true which describe the digging of Hezekiah's
>>>>>>> tunnel.  Otherwise, atheists need to explain why there is a tunnel
>>>>>>> exactly where the Bible in three books of the Old Testament says a
>>>>>>> tunnel was dug as a conduit for water.
>>>>>> I might point out that the physical evidence doesn't accord well with
>>>>>> the account of the tunnel's construction. Even if you're right, it's
>>>>>> simply shows that a tunnel was built, not that gods exist.
>>>>>> If you want to infer more than is logical from this, go for it! But to
>>>>>> maintain a degree of intellectual honesty, I cannot follow.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> Well, obviously, you have not studied the history of that time.
>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>> I haven't much, and yet I still know that. Additionally, the Bible
>>>> contains some history, but doesn't qualify as a whole. It's far too
>>>> unreliable.- Hide quoted text -
>>> Well, I understan why atheists would want to believe Sennacherib's
>>> account of the Assyrian invasion of Judea over the Biblical account,
>>> but, obviously, Sennacherib was lying.  Chaldean historians agree with
>>> the Biblical account.  Sennacherib lost his entire army at Jerusalem.
>> Obviously. Ummmm..... why again? Why would either of them have to be the
>> "gospel truth"?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> Sennacherib had to lie about the loss of his army because he had been
> left in a precarious position, as events soon proved when he was
> murdered by two of his own sons.

The Bible had to lie to promote the idea of an almighty god. That's my 
point, both sides have motive for lying. Why would you believe either 
one of the accounts?

What really took place maybe very different from either one.